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[mockers00]

I said this about Knightcurse and I will say it again now.

I highly doubt someone that can't even properly type simple english properly could possibly stand a chance against me in Assassin's Creed.

First off, I can speak with proper English but I am a lazy typer. Second off a black guy from the ghetto with slang English can play assassins creed revelations MP, anyone can master or be good at it with time, no matter how they speak or type. Third off, many people have liked my idea's and your ruining my thread by going off topic and trying to throw insults. Fourth off why don't you just explain why you do or don't like the idea instead of trying to be MOD-Boy156480. O.o so get your nerdy azz wanna be out of here, I could care less. Just stop going off topic and talk about the topic I have here.

[ReptileAssassin]

So let me get this straight: I said your ideas were bad but didn't explain why (do I actually have to?), you go off on an insult-slinging rant against me and try to claim you'll badly beat me in the game, I inform you just how wrong you are, and this leads to yet more insult-slinging from you and then you try to tell ME to stop going off-topic? You're the one that started it, bud, you could have just ignored my post instead of smashing your fists around on your keyboard as flying spit obscured your screen.

I'll respond to each of your points individually now.

1. And yet you think you have enough skill, training, or motivation to beat me in a complex game when you can't even summon up the effort to properly type six letter words or less?

2. No, he couldn't, because he would never be able to afford an Xbox or anything else required to play it.

3. Many people? That's funny, I see zero. Fillipino does not count because he stated his own idea and did not in any sense say he liked yours. And as for one of your other ideas, removing Templar Vision from AC3 multiplayer? Don't even get me started, that thread pretty much made you look like a complete joke, and you have to be delirious if you think ANY of your ideas are wildly popular.

4. Your idea is stupidly complicated, would be extremely difficult for any game company (much less Ubisoft, who has managed to screw up pretty much everything in ACR multiple times in a row) to implement without a cluster**** of glitches or other mishaps, it would basically force players to use walking groups and dictate the way everyone would have to play if they ever wanted a chance to win or at least get decent points. It would be completely unbalanced and nobody would like being forced to play in that style.

Also, if you're going to attempt to insult me, do it right. What the hell kind of insult is MOD-Boy156480?

[mockers00]

So let me get this straight: I said your ideas were bad but didn't explain why (do I actually have to?), you go off on an insult-slinging rant against me and try to claim you'll badly beat me in the game, I inform you just how wrong you are, and this leads to yet more insult-slinging from you and then you try to tell ME to stop going off-topic? You're the one that started it, bud, you could have just ignored my post instead of smashing your fists around on your keyboard as flying spit obscured your screen.

I'll respond to each of your points individually now.

1. And yet you think you have enough skill, training, or motivation to beat me in a complex game when you can't even summon up the effort to properly type six letter words or less?

2. No, he couldn't, because he would never be able to afford an Xbox or anything else required to play it.

3. Many people? That's funny, I see zero. Fillipino does not count because he stated his own idea and did not in any sense say he liked yours. And as for one of your other ideas, removing Templar Vision from AC3 multiplayer? Don't even get me started, that thread pretty much made you look like a complete joke, and you have to be delirious if you think ANY of your ideas are wildly popular.

4. Your idea is stupidly complicated, would be extremely difficult for any game company (much less Ubisoft, who has managed to screw up pretty much everything in ACR multiple times in a row) to implement without a cluster**** of glitches or other mishaps, it would basically force players to use walking groups and dictate the way everyone would have to play if they ever wanted a chance to win or at least get decent points. It would be completely unbalanced and nobody would like being forced to play in that style.

Also, if you're going to attempt to insult me, do it right. What the hell kind of insult is MOD-Boy156480?

Lol you just said I started it and I am dumb for insulting you and I should of ignored you, so your saying it's ok for you to insult me but not ok for me to insult you back and I should have just ignored you. You also said in the same paragraph I started it when you clearly did. Your really showing your intelligence......

First off, their are 6 different types of intelligence. Just because I am not that good at writing/reading does not mean I am a dumb person. Anyone can train hard at anything and become more intelligent at it. I would not really say being good at writing/reading is intelligence, it's something someone can get better at by putting in time. I am sure some are better then others but it does not show overall intelligence of logic and the 5 other intelligence's.

*Btw I have made A- average in all my highschool essay's. When I try I do alot better, I struggle explaining myself but I do better when I go back and review what I type and fix it. It's just how I work, sorry?. So my lazy typing and carelessness makes me type bad..... sorry I can't come off as intelligent to you*

Assassins creed is not that complex, Yes it is more complex then any other multiplayer game but it's not something that's impossible to figure out and eventually players*Just like any game* will learn from other players create their own tactics and intelligence. I am pretty smart in the game and use intelligent tactics. Also do not be racist, that's rude. I am not black but that's just stupid to say a comment like that.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...ving-Haystacks
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...yer-should-add
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...er-*Must-read*
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/685262-6v6-and-8v8

Those are all my idea threads that people liked and agreed on, as for the Templar Vision thread, that's not an idea thread and it's ironic 80% of the people said it should not be removed but said it was "Useless" LOL? if it's useless then why should it be in the game. Alot of people conridicted themselves in that but I respect their decision to keep it in.

Sorry if I could not explain myself clearly, here is what I ment

When you are hiding if you wait 10,15,30 seconds* I do not know how long*, by moving/transitioning to a new group*Whether they are moving or not* or hiding spot *You will not be rewarded for moving from a standing group to another standing group/hiding spot, everything has to be a smooth transition, For example: Your in a moving group and you move to a standing group, that's 30 points, now from that standing group you have to move to a moving group to gain 30 points with the set wait timer* You will gain 30 points for waiting 30 seconds for making that transition.

Also explain how it would unbalance and force people to play that style? If your saying the point's are what cause a problem? 30-50 point reward? plus you have to wait maybe even up to 30 seconds? people get 50 points just for doing a ground finish lawl... But ok let's hypothetically say it's the point problem, First off moving to new hiding spots makes you "suspecious" think about it, it's a huge risk to abond your hiding spot if your pursuer is around.

explain how this would force people to play this style? Stunning is like 150+ points and where the majority of points come from? I do not see how 30-50 points for rewarding a unrewarded play style that usually only get's 10 points unless they get lure bonuses.

I respect you do not want it in, but answer my questions of why it would be unbalanced with the info I just posted, thanks.

Also I am using what I wrote to explain my system, since you are right it's hard to understand as it is right now but it's not a compllicated system at all

Also MOD-Boy156480 implies your trying to be the 156480 user MOD on here by telling me to compile my idea's. Not a masterful insult but that's what it implies to. Thanks :]

[ReptileAssassin]

I said your ideas were terrible, which is not necessarily a direct insult. You then went on a tirade.

Practicing something until you are good at it does not equate to intelligence. By your logic, if someone practices holding their breath underwater until they can do it for three straight minutes, they suddenly become smarter. No, they did not, their body is just conditioned. No relation whatsoever to intelligence, and unlike holding your breath, you actually need brains to improve at this game's multiplayer.

You're the one that brought up the "black man with slang enligh in the ghetto" comment as if it had significance, not me. That was your mistake. YOU made the racist comment, I merely replied to it. News flash, the ghetto is where poor people live, hence my comment's relevance.

Templar Vision has its uses in some gametypes, but most good players don't need it the majority of the time. It should however still be in the game to help lower-level players until they can improve so much they no longer need it. Think of it as Compass-Checker training wheels. Also, this is what you said about Templar Vision:

Templar Vision ruins the game, it's the only ability I will legitmaly complain about or call nooby. Yeah sure it has cooldowns but it's an auto showing of who is who and takes no skill

Oh my lord.... So many things wrong here.

1: Templar Vision is not used that often unless it's in response to Morph,

2: If it's the only ability you can call nooby, you've clearly never been hit by a smokebomb or even mute, and you clearly lack experience,

3: It does take a little bit of work to avoid being spotted while using it, and even after that you still have to make a proper approach. You have to go around a corner, wait for your targets' potential locks to break, see who's where, then manage to get all the way over to your target without them knowing you're there. If you try using it in a hay bale, any competent target will get out of the way if they see you sitting in there for too long.

You either didn't say 15-20 seconds before or I missed it, but with that large of a gap required before you could get more points it would be much more doable.

Telling/asking you to put your ideas in one place instead of 50 threads (obvious exaggeration) is not modding, it's efficiency-oriented.

[mockers00]

I said your ideas were terrible, which is not necessarily a direct insult. You then went on a tirade.

Practicing something until you are good at it does not equate to intelligence. By your logic, if someone practices holding their breath underwater until they can do it for three straight minutes, they suddenly become smarter. No, they did not, their body is just conditioned. No relation whatsoever to intelligence, and unlike holding your breath, you actually need brains to improve at this game's multiplayer.

You're the one that brought up the "black man with slang enligh in the ghetto" comment as if it had significance, not me. That was your mistake. YOU made the racist comment, I merely replied to it. News flash, the ghetto is where poor people live, hence my comment's relevance.

Templar Vision has its uses in some gametypes, but most good players don't need it the majority of the time. It should however still be in the game to help lower-level players until they can improve so much they no longer need it. Think of it as Compass-Checker training wheels. Also, this is what you said about Templar Vision:



Oh my lord.... So many things wrong here.

1: Templar Vision is not used that often unless it's in response to Morph,

2: If it's the only ability you can call nooby, you've clearly never been hit by a smokebomb or even mute,

3: It does take a little bit of work to avoid being spotted while using it, and even after that you still have to make a proper approach. You have to go around a corner, wait for your targets' potential locks to break, see who's where, then manage to get all the way over to your target without them knowing you're there. If you try using it in a hay bale, any competent target will get out of the way if they see you sitting in there for too long.

You either didn't say 15-20 seconds before or I missed it, but with that large of a gap required before you could get more points it would be much more doable.

Telling/asking you to put your ideas in one place instead of 50 threads (obvious exaggeration) is not modding, it's efficiency-oriented.

Sorry, I ment experience. Which you could say experience is intelligence. For example, I hide in a haystack and my persuer killed me. Well I learned with no npc's looking like me my pursuer can obviously suspect I am in the haystack, so next time I morphed a group near a haystack and hide in the haystack and he payed more attention to the group then the haystack. Did I not just increase my knowledge and intelligence by learning that? I see what your saying about natural intelligence. I honestly do not think I am dumb or bad at ACR. Sorry if I insulted you, I guess it was unnecessary.

Also I used the black guy phrase from the ghetto because obviously they do not use perfect english *Not because they are dumb but because they use slang and some do not pay attention to school as much* as some are dumb but not all are dumb. Everyone has their intelligence in diffient places. If I train/study in english more I will become more intelligent in it, but it's more about learning it. You can't expect a baby to walk without practicing. I did not pay attention much in school and I regret that but it does not mean I do not have intelligence in the game or in real life?

But, I really do apologize for trying to hammer you.

But, yeah with a set timer and set little point's I think it could be a little extra reward for hiders without unbalancing the game. I revamped my first post if you would like to read. Even if you gained just 10 points with any set timer, I would be happy. It rewards my play style just a tad and it would kind of kill camping if the player did decide to go for those points.

I do not know how long the set timer should be or how big the reward should be, just whatever feels more balanced but what is your view of the overall concept?

Sorry if I came off nooby, I do realize I post alot whether if it's on my thread or not. I like to talk alot and comment on many thing's on the forum and find myself being the last poster on everything. I guess not everyone like's to post as much as me xD I have alot of downtime you see. I just got out of the hospital so my limitations are bed rest and playing ACR

[AngloKlaxon]

"I highly doubt someone that can't even properly type simple english properly could possibly stand a chance against me in Assassin's Creed."


Are you seriously equating grammar (whether it's in someone's native language or not) to video game skills? I'm sure there's somebody dyslexic who plays AC and would give you a run for your money... You may have even been beaten by one already, pretty stupid thing to say in all reality!

"unbalanced ideas that would almost completely wreck the flow of the multiplayer"

The multiplayer is already wrecked, what is this 'flow' you speak of? lmao

[BATISTABUS]

I'm not sure about the details, but I'm for anything that rewards a player for playing stealthily.

[mockers00]

I'm not sure about the details, but I'm for anything that rewards a player for playing stealthily.

Yeah, anything that rewards player, plus it may stop camping.

[Black_Widow9]

Wow. I think you both really need to read over the Forum Rules again unless you want a vacation. I'm locking this Flame War.