How to Fix Blacklist and Splinter Cell at the same time | Forums

[codenameeric]

This is going to sound crazy, but hear me out. Generally, the biggest beef people seem to have about Blacklist is that it's not Splinter Cell. The mechanics have changed so much it's no longer the same game... The characters have changed so much they are no longer the same people... The voices have changed... Etc etc... So, there are lots of very unhappy fans out there right now. But here's the thing: no one would be so critical about Blacklist if it wasn't part of the Splinter Cell franchise.

So... Ubisoft could, in theory, decide right now to make Blacklist a new, separate franchise. All they would have to do is change Sam & Grim's faces, change the look of the goggles and revise the script to remove any mention of 4E, Sarah etc. The sad thing is, these are the only elements of Splinter Cell that are still present from what I've seen - and they are have no real affect on the actual game.

If you think about it, it would work. They story is generic enough and a one-man-army super-soldier is very commonplace. In the end, all you have is a superhero tracking down bad guys. Yes, this superhero wears goggles that look like Sam's, but they don't work the same way or serve the same purpose. Sam's real goggles allowed him to see when the enemies couldn't and navigate through areas that would otherwise be impassible. Sonar goggles just let you see people though walls so you can mark bad guys and kill them instantly. The silly thing is, seeing through walls and super-human speed are superpowers.

If Blacklist wasn't Splinter Cell, it seems like you'd have a game that resembles a cross between Tomb Raider, Uncharted and stereotypical shoot-em-ups. People like those just fine, so it would probably do okay. And of course, if Blacklist was removed from the Splinter Cell universe, it would no longer be necessary to destroy the Splinter Cell legacy and devastate its most loyal fans. Splinter Cell would sell in today's market. There are plenty of games out there that are very complex and they still sell. Besides, Ubisoft makes tons of games that hardly sell. Not everything needs to be a triple A title.

So, that's my idea with a bit of rambling thrown in on the side. Again, it would work. You could remove all indicators of Splinter Cell and you would still have a good game. That's very significant because if Blacklist was really a Splinter Cell game, you'd have nothing left afterwards.

EDIT 1: In response to the people who say this would never happen, you're right. I don't think it's a viable idea - I think it's an interesting idea in theory. It's an observation. It's true that this game could easily exist outside the Splinter Cell franchise. And that says a lot.

EDIT 2: Since there's been so much negative feedback lately, it seems like this might actually be a good idea, if not a realistic one. Thoughts?

[BoBwUzHeRe1138]

Would never happen -- not to mention that there are a lot of aspects returning that indicate it may be able to be played like the originals....we still need to give it time. If the stealth vid doesnt impress us -- THEN it's time for these posts.

[CamberGreber]

Will never happen. They have already invested too much capital and too much Marketing via E3.

It would be 1 thing if the E3 showing was a totally flop for both Legacy fans as well as Conviction fans....but the general consensus is that Conviction fans are loving what they are seeing.
Not to mention that Blacklist won best of show at E3 too.

It just doesn't make financial sense.

[bluewolf042000]

Ironic how everyone one of these "save" Splinter Cell ideas are so ridiculously and horribly bad.

[codenameeric]

See my edit above. I didn't mean this as a suggestion. It's an interesting thought and the fact it would work says a lot. BTW - note how I said 'in theory'.

[Jakeman2006]

Give it time, guys. There is always and still hope.

[Andre202]

See my edit above. I didn't mean this as a suggestion. It's an interesting thought and the fact it would work says a lot. BTW - note how I said 'in theory'.

Let's wait what they have got to show us. I know a lot of people are very sceptical about Blacklist (as I am too) since what happened in Conviction. But I can partly understand why it happened, so let them give another chance. In RainbowSix they also got only one chance to show what they can do and maybe if the team would be on the second RainbowSix it would look a lot different. They never got a second chance in a franchise, so I am still eager to see how they managed the feedback in those two years and the PR is also completely different to the one of Conviction.

The one of Conviction was out to tell how bad the legacy series to present itself how good it was which was a big thorn to a lot of fans. Here and now they present the game and are always highlighting that they want the people to be able to play the game the way they want. That's already completely different and a lot more positive. Adding to that, that we now have a ComDev again who actually writes in the forums. So there is reason to have some hope here.

[FrankieSatt]

I agree that Blacklist should have never gotten the Splinter Cell name and neither should have Conviction.

The problem is you have people at UbiSoft who don't care about Splinter Cell and what it was. All they care about is taking a popular franchise and wringing every single penny it can from it and to hell with how it affects the franchise and to hell with the fans who have supported the franchise and want a Splinter Cell that resembles previous Splinter Cell games.

If they truely cared about the franchise they would have let Splinter Cell go and started Conviction as a new Franchise.

[mistahkmak]

I agree that Blacklist should have never gotten the Splinter Cell name and neither should have Conviction.

The problem is you have people at UbiSoft who don't care about Splinter Cell and what it was. All they care about is taking a popular franchise and wringing every single penny it can from it and to hell with how it affects the franchise and to hell with the fans who have supported the franchise and want a Splinter Cell that resembles previous Splinter Cell games.

If they truely cared about the franchise they would have let Splinter Cell go and started Conviction as a new Franchise.

agreed look at metal gear solid vs metal gear rising, two totally different games

[InnuJoker]

Give it time, guys. There is always and still hope.

I hope so because right now with the markmark and execute system it's headshot after headshot after headshot. Our beloved Sam is not using his stealth abilities to take down a few enemies with supressed weapons like back in the day. Now he's using unsupressed weapons and sonar googles to shoot everyone. The franchise drastically changed. I hope Ubisoft will acknowledge that it's better for the franchise to go back to the roots, stealth.