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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSimaYi View Post
    That's wrong, however. Sleeper agents don't necessarily have to have no knowledge that they are subconsciously working for someone else, that isn't an accurate description of a sleeper agent. They can either be aware of it or not; in both cases, the core concept is that they are placed in an enemy environment and don't have contact contact those they work for for long periods of time, and only act when "activated." Both Daniel and Lucy were sleeper agents, and Daniel was only different due to him being "brainwashed" when he was 10/11 years old and wasn't aware of him being a sleeper agent.
    Sleepers by definition is someone who has gone through a bunch of thought repressing procedures that they no longer know who they are or what they are doing until they ''awaken''. They live falsified lives because of the fact that they have been brainwashed to believe that, that is who they are. Moles are the ones that are completely aware of what they are doing and are acting as ''a part in a play'', if you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acrimonious_Nin View Post
    Sleepers by definition is someone who has gone through a bunch of thought repressing procedures that they no longer know who they are or what they are doing until they ''awaken''. They live falsified lives because of the fact that they have been brainwashed to believe that, that is who they are. Moles are the ones that are completely aware of what they are doing and are acting as ''a part in a play'', if you will.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeper_agent
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    This thread is just -___-

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSimaYi View Post
    Wrong place to look...thats the disambiguation of fiction. Heres the real source you should be looking at.
    http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki...Files#Dossiers (The sleeper file is located at file number 10)

    But, heres the quote to make life easier...>_>

    "File.0.10\Ins_AgentsEdit

    Abstergo has hundreds of field agents working throughout the world. Many of these operatives have already infiltrated the ranks of antagonistic organizations and many more are ready to do so. In espionage vernacular, they are known as Moles. While they pretend to work for a particular group, enterprise or nation, they are in truth loyal only to our particular cause. Our Moles, however, are much more than simple informants: they are faithful brothers and sisters, ready to strike at our command.

    Among our deep cover operatives is a small group of Sleepers. These men and women have given their lives to serve our cause and they are our fiercest and most dedicated agents. By willingly subjecting themselves to various thought repression and reform techniques, these individuals live falsified lives and no longer realize they are working for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acrimonious_Nin View Post
    Wrong place to look...thats the disambiguation of fiction. Heres the real source you should be looking at.
    http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki...Files#Dossiers (The sleeper file is located at file number 10)

    But, heres the quote to make life easier...>_>

    "File.0.10\Ins_AgentsEdit

    Abstergo has hundreds of field agents working throughout the world. Many of these operatives have already infiltrated the ranks of antagonistic organizations and many more are ready to do so. In espionage vernacular, they are known as Moles. While they pretend to work for a particular group, enterprise or nation, they are in truth loyal only to our particular cause. Our Moles, however, are much more than simple informants: they are faithful brothers and sisters, ready to strike at our command.

    Among our deep cover operatives is a small group of Sleepers. These men and women have given their lives to serve our cause and they are our fiercest and most dedicated agents. By willingly subjecting themselves to various thought repression and reform techniques, these individuals live falsified lives and no longer realize they are working for us.
    Fair enough, but Lucy is still referred to as a sleeper agent by Jeffrey Yohalem, and with the right description she is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSimaYi View Post
    Fair enough, but Lucy is still referred to as a sleeper agent by Jeffrey Yohalem, and with the right description she is.
    Shes not a sleeper because she is dead. She is a dead agent at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSimaYi View Post
    Fair enough, but Lucy is still referred to as a sleeper agent by Jeffrey Yohalem, and with the right description she is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Acrimonious_Nin View Post
    Shes not a sleeper because she is dead. She is a dead agent at best.
    ...Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acrimonious_Nin View Post
    Wrong place to look...thats the disambiguation of fiction. Heres the real source you should be looking at.
    http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki...Files#Dossiers (The sleeper file is located at file number 10)

    But, heres the quote to make life easier...>_>

    "File.0.10\Ins_AgentsEdit

    Abstergo has hundreds of field agents working throughout the world. Many of these operatives have already infiltrated the ranks of antagonistic organizations and many more are ready to do so. In espionage vernacular, they are known as Moles. While they pretend to work for a particular group, enterprise or nation, they are in truth loyal only to our particular cause. Our Moles, however, are much more than simple informants: they are faithful brothers and sisters, ready to strike at our command.

    Among our deep cover operatives is a small group of Sleepers. These men and women have given their lives to serve our cause and they are our fiercest and most dedicated agents. By willingly subjecting themselves to various thought repression and reform techniques, these individuals live falsified lives and no longer realize they are working for us.
    Yeah, this is what I was getting at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSimaYi View Post
    Fair enough, but Lucy is still referred to as a sleeper agent by Jeffrey Yohalem, and with the right description she is.
    Yohalem!? haha sorry, but, haha. you know he "wrote" Brotherhood right!
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