Weapons you love to hate (+ reason for Bodark < ghost) | Forums

[konvict1981]

I'm just jumping in on this conversation and it's probably a big mistake, but first off the MP7 isn't more powerful than an AK / ACR or any other assault riffle. The MP7 just has almost 3 times the ROF than an assault riffle there for you get hit 3 times more than you would with an assault riffle. With that said I think if you're getting killed at medium range or more with it than either you suck or the range needs to be toned down. I don't know I have been killed by it much nor have I used it much.

On a second note don't dis the run 'n gun spray 'n prayer, because he/she is keeping the enemies eyes off you sitting back in the spawn sniping. Everyone has their preferred play style. I myself have three different styles I play. All depends on the map, my opponents, and what my teammates are doing. Don't hate on the way a person plays a game they bought.

[konvict1981]

This made me lol... I am picturing some internet kid dressed like a cod soldier wearing pillows as protection complaining that nothing should be able to kill him because he is the slayer class... lmao. 3 shots to body kills, and the smg's can have a super high rof. If you ads, use three round burst, and go for all control its essentially one trigger pull, one kill.




LMAO yeah the goblin really destroys all of the riflemens weapons... it cannot ots fire anything past 10m... and lol at hating on people who use the acr because you can't...

Why? umm... well, its the same reason an ice cube is hotter than the sun....(lol it isn't...) The difference is really noticable and appropriate.

I know someone has already addressed this... but wow... match trigger is just a stock trigger made with higher tolerances, it keeps the default firing mode, but the weapon fires at an earlier point of the trigger pull.



I have no idea what people like you are talking about. I've played a few games where people say I only killed them because I used a noob full auto weapon. Ummm..... wow..... then Ive had people ***** at me for using a shotty, pistols, sniper rifles, battle rifles, knife, etc. Ive been called a ***ot for killing people in bc2 with the m1 garand when they are rocking an94/m60 laserbeams.... I have been called a noob for using optics, Ive been called a tool for not using them... I can use whatever I feel like, its a shooter game, as long as I shoot you, you should die and take it with dignitiy. Saying you only killed me because you used a full auto gun is kinda like taking a smart car to a drag race and *****ing you lost because they had a better vehicle to you. If you have a choice, and all choices have their own individual pro's and con's, its your fault for not choosing competetive gear. What was that one quote, we heard it a lot in the grfs trailers... something about playing fair when you have the most advanced arsenal available.

Very well stated

[Tyrone1985]

If the weapon kills me, its a noob weapon. Case closed

[Osk1e Wosk1e]

I despise the MP7 cause it's the ultimate CoD style mongoloid proof run n spray weapon...it takes no effort whatsover and it's stronger than any full size rifle...

Why is a PDW stronger than battle- and assault rifles?

Why is mindless spraying more effective than aimed single fire? (what's the whole point of the trigger choice in gunsmith?!)

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[Kamakaze Taco]

*quote from the primer Ghost recon guidebook*

its clear that while most of the progression between the two teams is similar. The late level unlocks give ghosts a bit of an advantage. Use of disruptive tactics lke stun mines an be the turning point, allowing bodark squads access to ghost networks to tip the balance, especially because ghosts end up defending more often then not

Am I the only one who realizes what a load of bullcrap this is? They very clearly state Ghost gets an advantage in weaponry. Then the Ghost, with their better weapons, get to defend objectives. But the stun mines (which both teams have access to) some how turn the tide for Bodark? Who's more likely to use stun mines; the team sitting in their own spawn defending an objective or the team running across the entire map trying to capture it?

The only weapons I really hate are the LMGs. I don't mind getting shot with one, or if a guy knows I'm around a corner he walks into it shooting. I hate the people that lay in spawn and empty the entire clip at where 1 sniper is. It's very loud and annoying.

[Mace556]

I have no idea what people like you are talking about. I've played a few games where people say I only killed them because I used a noob full auto weapon. Ummm..... wow..... then Ive had people ***** at me for using a shotty, pistols, sniper rifles, battle rifles, knife, etc. Ive been called a ***ot for killing people in bc2 with the m1 garand when they are rocking an94/m60 laserbeams.... I have been called a noob for using optics, Ive been called a tool for not using them... I can use whatever I feel like, its a shooter game, as long as I shoot you, you should die and take it with dignitiy. Saying you only killed me because you used a full auto gun is kinda like taking a smart car to a drag race and *****ing you lost because they had a better vehicle to you. If you have a choice, and all choices have their own individual pro's and con's, its your fault for not choosing competetive gear. What was that one quote, we heard it a lot in the grfs trailers... something about playing fair when you have the most advanced arsenal available.

You simply just don't get what I wrote cause you are part of the dumbed down masses who enjoy these pathetic CoD games/clones like GRFS and deny the fact that a match trigger is still a FULL AUTO (PULL THE TRIGGER ONCE, and it's also in the description) trigger designed for CoD kid r3tards who are mentally unable to aim or burst properly...also I can hear them shoot in full auto wihout releasing the trigger once! And I also mentioned that I myself did the same thing with FULL-AUTO AND MATCH TRIGGER cause at first I didn't believe the kill cam, but it is just like that, it is 1:1 CoD dog sh!t designed for incompetent players like yourself who actually believe these type of fire modes/guns are a challange and fun.

I am not just "complaining about some guns that kill me", I can kill with them EASILY as well (it's boring and lame)...I am complaining about the general CoD-ification of the shooter genre, where simple full-auto spraying is easy peasy mongoloid proof child's play.

It is the way the full-auto guns are designed, and in CoD or GRFS they have NO recoild and no spread, and pistol caliber have the same or more power on range as battle rifle calibers.

[vweight]

You simply just don't get what I wrote cause you are part of the dumbed down masses who enjoy these pathetic CoD games/clones like GRFS and deny the fact that a match trigger is still a FULL AUTO (PULL THE TRIGGER ONCE, and it's also in the description) trigger designed for CoD kid r3tards who are mentally unable to aim or burst properly...also I can hear them shoot in full auto wihout releasing the trigger once! And I also mentioned that I myself did the same thing with FULL-AUTO AND MATCH TRIGGER, it is 1:1 CoD dog sh!t designed for incompetent players like yourself who actually believe these type of fire modes are a challange and fun.

I am not just "complaining about some guns that kill me", I can kill with them EASILY as well (it's boring and lame)...I am complaining about the general CoD-ification of the shooter genre, where simple full-auto spraying is easy peasy mongoloid proof child's play.

It is the way the full-auto guns are designed, and in CoD or GRFS they have NO recoild and no spread, and pistol caliber have the same or more power on range as battle rifle calibers.

The fire mode of the match trigger is dependent on the default fire mode of the weapon. Its not just auto all the time. Just sayin. And no one thinks full auto is a challenge, and it is fun. Thats why its used. I use full auto mostly because I think its the most versatile fire mode. If shooting at someone far away I can just burst and keep my accuracy up and control the recoil. And if someone gets to close then I can spray. Its all about options.

As for "No recoil or spread..." Have you played the game? Unless you kit out your gun with all control gear, ARs, PDRs, and LMGs, all have lots of recoil. And all weapons have spread, even the SRs. You can go into gunsmith and test it for yourself. I have.

[Mace556]

The fire mode of the match trigger is dependent on the default fire mode of the weapon. Its not just auto all the time.

LoL and almost all of them are full-auto default...if you had actually read my prior posts, you would know that I already mentioned this.

As for "No recoil or spread..." Have you played the game? Unless you kit out your gun with all control gear, ARs, PDRs, and LMGs, all have lots of recoil. And all weapons have spread, even the SRs. You can go into gunsmith and test it for yourself. I have.

If you had read my posts carefully (obv you didn't) you would know that I already tested all of this myself, I was not just watching kill cams! I repeat:

Full-auto (inlcuding match trigger) is a boring, lame and effortless sh!t mode just like CoD, in older shooters like counter-strike there was recoil and spread which you had to control and you had to actually aim properly/consciously for the head, now there is just an auto-pilot mode for mentally handicapped kids who drink too much fluoridated water...


EDIT:

MP7 with standard gas system: AUTO 1110 RPM

MP7 with standard gas and MATCH trigger: AUTO 1110 RPM

This weapon without any mods has ZERO recoil and a 40rd mag, it is PERFECT for down syndrome CoD kids.

[PurePlayinSerb]

The point of the trigger system was to help towards giving us 20 million combos! because thats what everybody was crying out for right?

The should have just called the game TC's Gunsmith, because thats all there is and even that component is pretty ****...

no it was to help modders use single fire and turn their turbo controllers on, and have zero recoil when they spray, like a laser beam

[Mace556]

no it was to help modders use single fire and turn their turbo controllers on, and have zero recoil when they spray, like a laser beam

GRFS guns already have virtually no recoil. It is the main feature making this another CoD clone.