Please fix the Engineer; being detected all game is not fun. | Forums

[NWOslave]

Either shoot down the UAV or find an Engineer that uses Jammers and make him your friend. Problem solved.

too difficult considering the thread theme. easier to whine and complain like an ignorant gamer.

[xChupa]

too difficult considering the thread theme. easier to whine and complain like an ignorant gamer.

Well now, that's ironic...
How about you read the whole thread before labeling it.

[jeasd89]

too difficult considering the thread theme. easier to whine and complain like an ignorant gamer.

"Quit whining and complaining" the go to response to disregard people asking for a more balanced game, you know how people get developers to release patches to make games more enjoyable they "whine and complain".

[Mr_Ambivalence]

If your team is being spotted the whole time, its the team. I data hack usually 8-10 a game, and its only because the team isnt working together. The UAV has a big arrow pointing right at it, and if no one stops to shoot it down, whos fault is that. If all else fails, be an engineer and counter. Thats what I do when the enemy team runs all assualt, if what im doing isnt working.

[Kamakaze Taco]

Have you tried using the secondary emp launcher? The grenade will explode once it gets close enough to the uav.

This. Everyone wants to whine and moan about the engineer getting all sorts of intel, then they just sit perfectly still while the UAV is over their heads. SHoot it with an EMP and problem solved. Enemy throwing sensors? Throw an EMP and problem solved. It's not hard to negate an engineer, it's just that nobody is smart enough to do so.

[Neophoenix78]

Battery power on the UAV? Why do you not want battery power on the active camo? That has to take some juice to use. Why not limit the effectiveness of the battle armor? After it takes a specific amount of damage it is then ineffectual.

I played until the mid 20's as an Engineer. It is a support class. Take away my effectiveness at supporting and there is no reason to play that class.

I had friends play as an Engineer in a match. One used the hacking tool. The other never used the UAV properly. Never positioned near the points in Conflict. One had 4 teamwork points other had 5. I usually end in the upper teens lower twentys when I Engineer. I played my first match as an Assault. 31-11 and got True Ghost Achievement. Felt like I was cheating using the Assault.

Every class has a role to play. I do not ask for a nerf for assault weapons.armor. Makes that class useless. I do not ask for a nerf to smg's being better than PDRs. I do not ask for active camo to have a time limit. Again makes that class useless.

[Furious bEz]

I too play as an Engineer and let me tell you this if you're not aware. Our weapons are NERFED enough until we begin the 20+ threshold where we get a let bit of power. However, since we're primarily a support class, it's not going to get much better. My Goal since BETA ended was to master the ENGINEER Class and then return to Rifleman and finally Scout classes. LONG LIVE THE ENGINEER CLASS, and beware of my stealth busting, camp snitching resources!

[WHITEyy118]

Every class has a role to play.

This. I play as all 3 classes and have each within 1 level of each other. I use each class how it should be used and reap the rewards. Hell last game I used Scout and went 17-0-6-4. It just seems certain players stick to 1 class only and point out there weaknesses. Rifleman and Scouts getting detected by Engineers. Engineers getting out gunned by Rifleman. It's just a big game of rock paper scissors. Each class has it's achilles heel.

[jeasd89]

Battery power on the UAV? Why do you not want battery power on the active camo? That has to take some juice to use. Why not limit the effectiveness of the battle armor? After it takes a specific amount of damage it is then ineffectual.

I played until the mid 20's as an Engineer. It is a support class. Take away my effectiveness at supporting and there is no reason to play that class.

I had friends play as an Engineer in a match. One used the hacking tool. The other never used the UAV properly. Never positioned near the points in Conflict. One had 4 teamwork points other had 5. I usually end in the upper teens lower twentys when I Engineer. I played my first match as an Assault. 31-11 and got True Ghost Achievement. Felt like I was cheating using the Assault.

Every class has a role to play. I do not ask for a nerf for assault weapons.armor. Makes that class useless. I do not ask for a nerf to smg's being better than PDRs. I do not ask for active camo to have a limit. Again makes that class useless.

No one's asking for active camo and everything else you said to get a nerf you know why? Because they're not over powered that's why, people are asking for the UAV to be nerfed because it is overpowered.

[xChupa]

Battery power on the UAV? Why do you not want battery power on the active camo? That has to take some juice to use. Why not limit the effectiveness of the battle armor? After it takes a specific amount of damage it is then ineffectual.

I played until the mid 20's as an Engineer. It is a support class. Take away my effectiveness at supporting and there is no reason to play that class.

I had friends play as an Engineer in a match. One used the hacking tool. The other never used the UAV properly. Never positioned near the points in Conflict. One had 4 teamwork points other had 5. I usually end in the upper teens lower twentys when I Engineer. I played my first match as an Assault. 31-11 and got True Ghost Achievement. Felt like I was cheating using the Assault.

Every class has a role to play. I do not ask for a nerf for assault weapons.armor. Makes that class useless. I do not ask for a nerf to smg's being better than PDRs. I do not ask for active camo to have a time limit. Again makes that class useless.

Uh, I'm asking for nerfs to Engineer because I, in my opinion, think it is unbalanced.
You're trying to twist and turn what I am saying. I'm not saying to take away the Engineer's ability to support the team, that would be dumb. I'm saying to nerf it's effectiveness in supporting a bit.

Let me give another very extreme example just to get my point across.
Let's say, hypothetically, the Rifleman's body armor gave him a 4,000% increase in health. Does that seem fair? Of course not.
Now, your argument is that the Rifleman's body armor should not be nerfed simply because it's his role to be combat effective. In reality (for this example), the Rifleman's body armor should be nerfed to, say, 110% health. That way he is still combat effective, but not super overpowered, and whatdoyaknow, he got nerfed. Do you see the flaw in what you're saying now?
You can nerf a class without making it useless...

Your points about the camo needing battery because realistically it would suck up juice, or the body armor degrading over time, are irrelevant...
This is about balance, not realism.
Again, adding a battery life to the UAV would be for balance, not realism...