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[FIecher]

I'm afraid!

Afraid that the continuing trend with messing with the old formula of ubisofts big hitters of yesteryear if undermining them.
You cant argue that on the original XBox (what I mainly played games on) the 2 biggest shooters that everyone religiously played were Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six the best Recon game ever being Island Thunder, we now have to make do with watered down 3rd person games, and the best Rainbow games, R63 and Black Arrow, being replaced with (excluding the debacle that was Lockdown) Vegas 1 & 2 (not too bad). But with this new game why are we getting features like 'the ability to see through walls/cover' I can only imagine what other horrors lie in wait, how about the ability to fly? Turn invisible? Incapacitate enemies wherever they may be on the map just by looking at them?
What you should be doing is bringing back the stuff that made Rainbow a big hitter, there is no need to try and out do the competition with crap no one wants, what about....

Proximity talk? Rainbow Six 3 on XBox featured this and was amazing, making you stealthy so you could not chat to fellow team members when near a target unless you wanted to give away your tactics (multiplayer)

Lean? Way before cover, which in single is nice, we had lean. The premise was simple, walk up to a corner and lean out. This needs an overhaul to become relevant but would be a whole lot better than cover.

Planning? Rainbow used to be all about planning, before you play plan your entry points, escape points etc but this has vanished. BRING THIS BACK, an overhauled version would be brilliant and add that little extra Rainbow magic in multi.

Gunsmith? Although the gunsmith interaction in recon is dubious at best the idea is solid, incorporate this in Rainbow for that extra oomph.

These are a few things that would be a more welcome addition to Rainbow even just on the multiplayer level of things. But I'm afraid we're just gonna get 'Cool and exciting' features no one wants. Take a long hard look at what is happening to what once were the biggest franchises in gaming, why are they not so now? It's certainly not because they need the ability to see through stuff

[KyleTrinity]

This game will not be complete without Terrorist Hunt.

[CyberCam]

This game will not be complete without Terrorist Hunt.

Agreed... Terrorist Hunt with maps larger that a shoe box, HAS to be in Patriots or else many will leave it on the shelves.

[zack991]

Yea that is why I cant wait for Ground Branch to be be finished. I still play the classic Rainbow six games and the classic Ghost recon more than any of their new versions.

[o Wullie Mac o]

I liked Vegas, scratched my head at vegas2 though. (the only thing that was different in V2 was the offline customisation).

I can say in absolute honesty that i will never pre-order and TC title again because of Endwar and GRFS. Not only that but i will encourage as many others as i can not to do so either regardless of any promises made by the devs.

Only once RB6 PATS has been out a month and depending on reviews will i think about buying it. So if i see anything like the reviews of GRFS i aint touching it.

[HHH2986]

I liked Vegas, scratched my head at vegas2 though. (the only thing that was different in V2 was the offline customisation).

I can say in absolute honesty that i will never pre-order and TC title again because of Endwar and GRFS. Not only that but i will encourage as many others as i can not to do so either regardless of any promises made by the devs.

Only once RB6 PATS has been out a month and depending on reviews will i think about buying it. So if i see anything like the reviews of GRFS i aint touching it.

Yeah let's just hope they remember the fans that made them unlike GRFS epic fail

[zachanscom]

seriously, how stupid are you people? ubisoft doesn't do realistic shooter games anymore. the tom clancy brand is not the same thing as it was a decade ago. move on to better games/developers. i suggest the projects by serellan and sonedecker.

you hope they'll remember the fans that made them? you made red storm, who all got fired and went off to do other things. ubisoft's development studios all do idiotic arcade games now. anyone who didn't stop supporting ubisoft after that disaster known as vegas is simply a complete moron.

[HHH2986]

seriously, how stupid are you people? ubisoft doesn't do realistic shooter games anymore. the tom clancy brand is not the same thing as it was a decade ago. move on to better games/developers. i suggest the projects by serellan and sonedecker.

you hope they'll remember the fans that made them? you made red storm, who all got fired and went off to do other things. ubisoft's development studios all do idiotic arcade games now. anyone who didn't stop supporting ubisoft after that disaster known as vegas is simply a complete moron.

Oy shut it, Vegas was a quality game and still ****s on any modern shooters period.

[CyberCam]

Oy shut it, Vegas was a quality game and still ****s on any modern shooters period.

I have to disagree with you HHH2986, the game was decent, but far from quality! Vegas 2 is the reason why I have not purchased a Ubisoft game since it's release. I couldn't connect to my friends in coop or pvp online (PS3) for about 5 weeks. The online was an absolute mess in the beginning. Also, the cover system was kind of cheap... being able to see & aim at your target from cover without them even seeing a hair on your head? It was quite the exploit, to say the least.