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[SolidSage]

You could say the same thing about Lambert, or even Sarah (before Conviction retconned her back to life).

I'm not saying that's evidence that Hansen was killed, but major characters have been killed off before.

@ Jazz: I'd really like some new people, like a new communications lead and field runner, and... maybe even a new protagonist.

Good point. But they had been around for a while. I don't see purpose in introducing a cameo character who gets no screen time, and then killing him in the same game, without actually creating some impact from it.
I didn't know who Hansen was until someone pointed out the novel character, but I do now choose to think that's who he was. I'm not saying his death isn't the case, I mean Reed was wiping out the good guys, so maybe. I'm just saying it doesn't make much sense to me to bother with it, unless it was a hint at the coming betrayal of A&K, in that their Handler was removed specifically to allow for Reed's Handler to send the Kill Order....
.....I think I argued your point for you there.

New Protagonist:
I've posted a good bit on this point in particular. I was initially, and still am, FOR a new protagonist. New fresh and with plenty of TIME to keep on doing it. I don't want Sam dead, I'd prefer his continued involvement in the 3E program, or even better, his own SC type PMC.
I think a recurring new protagonist would be essential, but I don't see a problem with several new protagonists either. I refer back to the PC Rainbow days, when you had a roster of Operatives to assign missions to at your discretion. We would of course need a main story player, but I think surrounding him/her with other operatives would broaden the scope of the deal a bit, and add some variety.
I really like the idea of multi national operatives. The PMC deal would really facilitate that angle. We could have the likes of Archer, Kestrel, Sam, Koshka, Pak, Price, etc, all under one banner. A great entity to go toe to toe with the Multi National Meggido.

If Sam HAS to bow out, I'm not sure how I would want it to go down. The obvious choice is super heroism in the line of duty, but maybe realishness would allow for an execution after being captured or many other harsh reality versions.
I think it best to just stay away from that completely. Sam is down with the Prez on a face to face level now, he and Grim defended the White House from a coup, he is now number one on the most trusted asset list. THAT angle allows for Sam to move into Executive role alongside Grim. Or he goes and lives in the country I suppose.

However it goes, if progressive time lines are followed I can't help but think SC6 is Sam's last outing as far as field work is concerned.

[hastings84]

How come when I said all that, I got shot in the face?

The heroic T-8000 sacrificed himself to a molten metal furnace, to save John Connor in an ultimate heroic death. The epic Tony Montana didn't run away from his problems - he heroically faced them head on to save his cocaine. Obi Wan Kenobi was a complete hero and he sacrificed himself to save Luke, and later, Darth Vader did the same. In the video game world, I Halo Reach comes to me mind immediately - You play the entire game as a Spartan,After sacrificing HIMSELF to fight off attacking forces, in order for everyone to get away. For those who played the final mission - Tell me just how epic that was.... For those who didn't see it: Check it out -

These are all heroic, and utterly epic movie deaths. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with a complete hero dying. Some of the best movies end with a hero dying. Why? Because it is UNEXPECTED, and that's what makes a story remembered.

HOWEVER - I am NOT saying I WANT Sam Fisher to die. He is my favourite video game character of all time, and would make out with him if he asked. I am only saying, when and if the time comes - I just hope Ubisoft makes it HUUUGEEE.

[SolidSage]

How come when I said all that, I got shot in the face?

HOWEVER - I am NOT saying I WANT Sam Fisher to die. He is my favourite video game character of all time, and would make out with him if he asked. I am only saying, when and if the time comes - I just hope Ubisoft makes it HUUUGEEE.

Two things;
1. I guess you have a face that begs to be shot. Good job on the recovery.
2. "Would make out with him if he asked".????? I just needed to preserve that for future discussion when you are getting on my nerves.

[hastings84]

Anybody here would, and you know it. Sam is a hottie!

[Jamsedreng22]

What I think is happening:
Either A. He uncovered the conspiracy and went AWOL
Or B: They keep the Agents in between different handlers, as to avoid the handlers getting a total overview of what is going on. Hansen was told to help them infiltrate the area, Valentina was informed they were recovering stolen nukes. If one handler thinks they're infiltrating an enemy base, and the other handler is informed they're recovering STOLEN EMP warheads, even though they might be the ones stealing it from Moscow. I know this is probably not canon. HAven't played ConViction since it came out pretty much. But that's my take on it.