View Poll Results: Do the Prices Seem Fair?
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It depends what adjustments are made to prices, obviously, but as of now these prices are crazy. The idea of paying $15.00 for a single gun outrageous. And fact that everything must be purchased, like grenades, plates, abilities, means that a select few with disposable income could dominate. At the lower price point (the one people would be willing to spend from time to time) your basically paying a dollar for a single pack of grenades.
With that said, if the flow of RP and the RP prices don't change much I don't have too big of a problem with it. The ability to buy all guns with RP and the ability to make enough RP in a reasonable amount of time will be what matters most. Otherwise people will move on
But the select few don't dominate, that's the beauty of it.
Weapons, Plate, Nades, Armor, ect ect all provide a benefit, and definatly matter.
But, nothing trumps skill in this game.
I have never given up money to a F2P game in my life, will I drop money on GRO: You betcha.
Why? One: I don't have to feel guilty about it.
This isn't a game where only the most prestigous and best weapons can only be purchased with actual money. If this has proven anything is that all weapons are easily attainable (yes I said easily, may take you awhile but turns out all you have to do is play) Look at PinkyPie, Superhero and a few others flaunting the 40k RP guns. They didn't buy those with Ghost Coins, they used good ol fasion RP.
Two: Guns don't make the player, at the end of the day it still comes down to skill of the player. I still get railed by even the Basic GI weapons all day long, even to the point where i've gone back and bought one of the basic level guns because of how well it was doing against me.
Three: If I am not interested in saving RP, there is enough RP earned every match to keep me supplied with both plates and / or nades (Depends on the type) every match if I so choose. Most of the time I don't just because I don't need them. If this game gets to the point where we have lots of clan's hosting like tourney's and stuff, then yeah i'll stock up on plates and nades to help make the difference, but at the end of the day (Go back to Two).
40% of the time I don't even play with grenades or armor inserts and I've been fine.
Near the end of phase 2 I was not using armor inserts because I was saving for a better SMG for recon. Nades aren't worth using honestly and although they are nice...I'm not willing ot buy them anymore. Plus...the big impact ones have been bugged for me since day 1. They just sit there....loading.....and I can never use them.
But yea....I feel the guys who spend money that have skill will dominate. I just hope that some guys I play with that are good use some ghost coins for the team bonuses, like vector imaging and stuff....whatever that's called. I never bought it but it's useful.
I believe REAL money should last you a long time in this game....not just buy a few guns. It should really make you a more rounded player without having to play alot, that's all...just give your character a shortcut.
If I ever spend real money, it would be on the faster leveling up or double the RP points...stuff that helps you long term, not just in 1 shot.
Well, if you do buy guns/devices you are spending money on something that will last forever. Spending Ghost Coin on grenades and armor inserts though... you may want to get your head checked.
Originally Posted by TheUnrest
Plus for weapons/devices you have to reach the specified level first, so you won't be seeing people decked out from the get-go.
Many retail games will ask for $60 up front and have unlocks that may require 100+ hours of gameplay to acquire.
Originally Posted by TheUnrest
Judging from the current shop prices and the values in this thread (that were taken from a survey question we asked), I would say that 100+ hours in-game and $50-60 would probably gain you all the stuff you would ever want for your characters. If you spend more than that, I'd imagine it would be to have more convenience or cosmetic appeal. In other words, having 3 of your favorite high-level weapon in various configurations, etc.
As a F2P MMO junkie, I found the prices to be more on the fairer side of things, which makes me happy. I loved Allods, but their pricing was a bit expensive in my opinion. Not everyone wants to shell out $10 just for a mount, or $15 for one that doesn't look like it has a syndrome .
It's a Level THIRTY gun, and it's $10 at max rate, which I intend to do every time I buy in. $10 for 50 hours is normal. It's not like you're buying ammo for it or have to upgrade and repair it every 3 minutes with cash, or it'll fall apart if you earn it via RP.
Originally Posted by methodk
It's also not mandatory for you to buy it. It's not a "premium" rifle. It's a rifle anyone can buy. The cash shoppers can get it faster but they still have to level to 30, and even then, it's not like you can't get it with in-game currency.
You will need to have played at least 50 hours to reach Level 30. All weapons below Level 10 are $1 or less. If you think $10 for a gun is overpowered...
I used to play Allods Online...
There was a rune system that added damage and reduced damage. Each level added 10% damage and reduced damage accordingly.
Level 1 was free
Level 2 cost $6
Level 3 cost $12
Level 4 cost $24
Level 5 cost $48 and so on.
People in game had Level 10 runes, and some had Level 12 and 13.
You haven't seen outrageous until you've seen people walking around with items worth $100 and then telling you they're superior because they have a wallet to spend. Imagine a player doing 100% damage than you with the default assault rifle, and your bullets doing half damage to him, and the game calling it fair. That is NOWHERE near what GRO will be.
This game's cash shop, if it stays this way is MILD. If I enjoy 50 hours of a game, I'd **** better be pleased to spend $10 on that 50 hours of enjoyment, because it's not like I'm forced to buy the gun.
TheUnrest: neither was I. When they stopped giving them to me I didn't see much need.
DegenesisRein: I agree. My concern is more in terms of what changes may happen to the RP earning system later on. As it is right now, I have no problem with the prices because I earned enough points to get on without them.
That said, the Coins are expensive enough (survey prices) that I probably wouldn't buy them since they wouldn't help much and I don't feel I need them. That's not something a game wants players to feel, at least not in a business sense. I love that they are not needed to have fun and that definitely shouldn't change, but if you're a player like me, you won't spend more than around $5 dollars in a single transaction if it only "helps" and doesn't actually expand the game in any way. It may be $5 a month for a year, but let's be honest, most of us would rather spend $5 a month for a year than spend $100 for the same gear in a single transaction, even if it is cheaper. My point is, I think the price that most people are okay spending in a splurge ($1 to $10) fails to be worth spending. I'm not a businessman, but it seems that a game should have appealing rewards for small amounts of money. More money should be more rewarding of course, but a small amount of money should offer more than that good feeling you get from donating.
CompassGhost: $15 dollars was just an estimate. I didn't do the math and I couldn't see the gun prices anymore. But with attachments/upgrades and such it's not far off.
I agree there are games that have ridiculous prices. But to be honest, I don't think this game could pull that off. RPG's seem to be more successful at ripping people off. People will just play a different shooter if gets to the point that to be enjoyable it costs as much as a new game. To be clear, I'm not accusing Ubisoft or GRO of being like that.
All: Like I said before it doesn't matter much if the RP system stays useful. IMO, the Coins should be completely unnecessary but not be out of the question (high prices for a nice reward) and not feel like a pledge drive (low prices and a useless reward). I'm just stating how this game could keep me playing and get a little of my money.
It'd be hard to level to 30 without getting any RP. I would upgrade the gun using RP rather than Ghost Coins. The initial investment for a Final Tier gun is 40K RP, while the upgrades themselves remain at about 1K to 3K, which is easily farmable in a night. a 40K farming run is not a run in the park.
Agreed. As long as its free-to-win I don't care much. And keep in mind that on that survey there is no $10 option, so an item costs as much as you have to spend to get enough Coins. Any coins you have left are a bonus in the eyes of the consumer.
Most transactions will be for the cheapest options or nothing at all, so it's important that they are appealing enough to actually sell. Otherwise they will most likely not make much money.