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    Just a few insights/suggestions

    Ill tackel the sniper issue. There are way too many snipers on the maps. How about a limit on snipers for each team?? (like say 2 each?) Because snipers are usually the strongest class in almost any game including this one, Maby it should be harder to increase their lvl and equipment greatly as well. That way this class can stay "nonnerfed" in game for the most part. A combo of these would make the game better for others to actually play instead of sitting around and sniping each other.

    More maps! Honestly! There needs to be more maps this game. Needs at least 2 more short range maps, 1 more mid range and 2 more long range maps.Yes 5 more maps in total would be nice. and would get people to play longer.

    Match balancing..wow this is a mess. there should be no way a lvl 30 be in the same room as a lvl 1-15. This is why people quit in the middle of the match or leave the game outright. When players leave in the middle of a match it screws up the team. Honestly i would rather see room that has 1-6 level/ranks 7-13 to 14-19 ect....its fair.. and also keeps players from getting fustrated. (if a low lvl wants to go head to head with higher lvls, maby have an option for hardcore??)

    Ok game modes..as i touched above...having only capture the flag all the time is boring. How about a hardcore mode or a defend and attack mode, death matches, rugby match well you all get the piont...just saying it would be nice to see these here.

    Last but not least a suggestion about suspious players/hackers. How about rewards for reporting hackers?? like a bounty? the hacker account gets nixed but the 1st person to report it gets in game money and exp points?? i know there will be an influx of reports but it may take that to keep the hacking down a little.

    Before i get hammereed by trolls or angry people that hate my ideasa.....chill.....they are just insights, sujestions, ideas. im not a gm, im not a dev, so please if you dont like what i have here please at least tweak the idea in your prespective in a civilized mannor! add to the discussion.
    Last edited by Paul_MaudDib; 05-14-2012 at 04:30 PM.

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    Hi Paul. Thank you for taking time to write out your suggestions. This is exactly the type of feedback we're looking for from closed beta testers. To address a couple of your concerns, more maps will be introduced in the future (although I'm not sure when), and matchmaking will also be more balanced in the future, especially when we have a larger pool of players to pull from to create matches. Your ideas for additional game modes and hacker rewards are great, I'll be sure to pass them along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_MaudDib View Post
    Ill tackel the sniper issue. There are way too many snipers on the maps. How about a limit on snipers for each team?? (like say 2 each?) Because snipers are usually the strongest class in almost any game including this one, Maby it should be harder to increase their lvl and equipment greatly as well. That way this class can stay "nonnerfed" in game for the most part. A combo of these would make the game better for others to actually play instead of sitting around and sniping each other.
    For the most part, snipers are really only overpowered after Level 15, when they get access to the SR-25, or the M200, which is a virtual one-shot machine. The SMGs could use a bit of adjustment, but really, a full team of Recons would lose to a full team of Engineers or Assaults pretty easily. The biggest issue seems to be that people are inclined to be "DA SNIPAH" which is totally inaccurate and impractical in the game. Aside from that, sniper rifles are finesse weapons. They aren't easy to use right now because the Assault can pick them off with Mk 16s.



    More maps! Honestly! There needs to be more maps this game. Needs at least 2 more short range maps, 1 more mid range and 2 more long range maps.Yes 5 more maps in total would be nice. and would get people to play longer.
    Beeta. Work in progress.

    Match balancing..wow this is a mess. there should be no way a lvl 30 be in the same room as a lvl 1-15. This is why people quit in the middle of the match or leave the game outright. When players leave in the middle of a match it screws up the team. Honestly i would rather see room that has 1-6 level/ranks 7-13 to 14-19 ect....its fair.. and also keeps players from getting fustrated. (if a low lvl wants to go head to head with higher lvls, maby have an option for hardcore??)
    With a larger population, this should eventually go away. With a population of about 500 people with no influx of new players, it's bound to happen.

    Ok game modes..as i touched above...having only capture the flag all the time is boring. How about a hardcore mode or a defend and attack mode, death matches, rugby match well you all get the piont...just saying it would be nice to see these here.
    There is no... Capture the Flag?

    Last but not least a suggestion about suspious players/hackers. How about rewards for reporting hackers?? like a bounty? the hacker account gets nixed but the 1st person to report it gets in game money and exp points?? i know there will be an influx of reports but it may take that to keep the hacking down a little.
    What would prevent people from randomly reporting everyone in hopes that they get lucky? Or prevent a person like me, who has been accused now probably 10 times, from being accidentally banned because they simply get 10 reports? There needs to be an anticheat implemented, not a random reporting implemented, to address these issues. Otherwise, we get nightmares where good players are accidentally banned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_MaudDib View Post
    More maps! Honestly! There needs to be more maps this game. Needs at least 2 more short range maps, 1 more mid range and 2 more long range maps.Yes 5 more maps in total would be nice. and would get people to play longer.
    There are more maps in development... We know this because the initial GRO trailed from a year ago or something showed one. Check the following thread for more information:
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-map-I-want-it

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_MaudDib View Post
    Match balancing..wow this is a mess. there should be no way a lvl 30 be in the same room as a lvl 1-15. This is why people quit in the middle of the match or leave the game outright. When players leave in the middle of a match it screws up the team. Honestly i would rather see room that has 1-6 level/ranks 7-13 to 14-19 ect....its fair.. and also keeps players from getting fustrated. (if a low lvl wants to go head to head with higher lvls, maby have an option for hardcore??)
    This is mostly due to the small closed beta player pool. On average I notice about 200 players online, when there's only a handful of players searching for a match at a time then it really restricts how well the matchmaker can match players together. I'm sure that once we have 1000+ people online on average we'll see better matching.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_MaudDib View Post
    Last but not least a suggestion about suspious players/hackers. How about rewards for reporting hackers?? like a bounty? the hacker account gets nixed but the 1st person to report it gets in game money and exp points?? i know there will be an influx of reports but it may take that to keep the hacking down a little.
    A reward system only promotes people to just report EVERYONE who is better than them. Bad idea in my opinion.

    The devs have said that they're working on better ways to report people for suspicious activity in-game. Based on the UI changes we saw in version 0.6.0 I foresee a lot of additional features making their way into the UI in the future.
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    This game is different than most in that higher level players are not inherently better. You don't get more hit points, and you get marginal damage and armor increases. What is most important in this game is experience. The longer you've been playing, the more knowledgeable you are of tactics. Also, since each class levels up separately, that level 1 character could have two level 30 characters. He has a lot of experience to draw from, and that makes him a formidable opponent, despite his low level.

    In short, levels don't mean as much as it does in other games. Just keep at it and have fun.

    Also, I have to agree with Freelancer852. Encouraging people to report others isn't really needed, and it would put undue stress on the GMs.
    Last edited by JDCAce; 05-16-2012 at 10:34 PM.

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    I'm not a big fan on limiting any of the classes or players on how they play. (Disclaimer: i'm not attacking anyone, calling anyone out, just voicing my opinion)

    Lets say we do limit how many snipers a team can have, who decides who gets to be a sniper? What if all i have is a sniper weapon and I don't have access to a Sub-machinegun, what if I don't have any other class of characters created to switch to assault or specialist. Will i be kicked from the game?

    The burden of how a team plays should never be on the GM's/Matchmaking servers.

    The burden of how a team plays is and as it should always be on the players themselfs. If a team has too many snipers it's up to the players to realize this and switch their playstyle (If they so want).

    Matchs are not instantly joined you have that 20 sec countdown that allows you to see all the classes on your team and gives you the option to change your class if you so desire.

    But that's the heart of the issue, people are not interested (well most people) in changing. What they want is other people to change. It's like me being a Sniper, and sitting far back taking shots and yelling at the rest of the team to stop sniping because we need more people on the point to capture it. It's crazy talk. =)

    I've seen all sniper teams fail, and I've seen all Sniper teams absolutly destroy another team. The burden to win or lose is always on the players.

    If you don't like that some teams have more Recons, Assaults, or Specialist's or you precive that this is the reason they are winning or losing there is a built in option to better plan your team. It's called Fireteam. Whenever I am on a Fireteam I ask, what do you guys want? Go Recon to work them over, or go Assault or Specalist to help push on points better? Sometimes people care, most of the time people don't. "Play whatever you want man" because it's not the class that matters. What matters (and the reason I am in a fireteam) is "who" it is playing the class. (Me)

    We had a few games (Kringe, myself, I want to say compass, and i forget who else we had) where we decided to just use melee only and still ended up destroying the other team. (I really wish I would of recorded that game) Didn't matter what class we had, what mattered and what will always matter is "who" was playing them.

    Limiting classes isn't the answer. Fireteams are.

    -Crow
    Last edited by DegenesisRein; 05-16-2012 at 11:29 PM.

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    Thanx fer da responce guys..
    Nice! new maps comming!! hope we all can test em before release!!!
    Ya tru tru on the limited players for match balencing during closed beta. You guys are right about not many players being invited but at least ubi and the devs have already adressed this issue.
    As for snipers they are always an odd fit. They are sort of yin and yang i guess. Hard to balance and play yet can overwhelm or under perform at the same time. I myself love playing the sniper with a sub, but if i see that my team is all or mostly snipers i do change over quicky to another class. Odd thing is i have yet to buy a rifle and actually snipe. You guys are right i dont have to stay in a game but thats the thing you want to advoid, people jumping out in the middle of the match because they get fustrated.
    As for the hacker issue there is no solid answer..i know that..and yes it would be a cry wolf situation that could cost a honest player to be banned and i dont want to see that! As long as we try to come up with feeasable ides. I just dont want to see gripe sessions and people not at least try to help. Maby give the gm's a hand or something. At least we are able to talk about it and discuss it at this point before the release.
    Hey compas.... um...capture the flag, well thats what i call it in this game..its verry similar to another fps game i play. just saying a rugby mode would be interesting. or a attack or defend mode...

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