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    Member warghost819's Avatar
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    The matchmaking is borked right now, there are only so many players a FT can play against.
    When the game was still up the FT I normally ran with consisted of 26+ level classes (usually running 1 of each) against level 1 through 8s.
    It is not their fault they had to verse us, I completely understand if they rage quit. It is not fun getting the snots kicked out of you through your rear end.
    They should NOT be penalized for leaving to find a more balanced match that has a higher potential for being fun, it isn't fun for the high level people to just steam roll lower levels either.

    Until the player base expands and matchmaking stops being a troll, there will be stacked matches and people will (understandibly) quit.
    The true fun is when both teams are in equilibrium and it is a struggle for both teams to cap.

    Heck, I'll uninstall the game if they implement a 30min lockout. Sometimes the guys I enjoy running with DC, or the game crashes on 3 out of 4 people, or it boots us from the fireteam. Why should anyone be penalized for a gameside "Whoopsies!" that no one has control over? Sometimes there are 4v0 matches because people quit in the loading screen. I don't mind, but do you really want to penalize 8 people for quitting a match that neither side wants to play? A 30 minute lockout would actually hinder the game on all accounts, matches would be found slower because everyone is locked out, people would complain on the forums while people say "quit whining and go find a fireteam."
    Nobody can play because they're trying to find a decent match and people look like a certain male body part used for urinating for telling everyone seeking a decent match that they are a bunch of whiners. If there are no players, there is no flow for GRO.

    @TX_Smitty
    If you need a real gun to feel like a real man, then you have a problem.
    Playing with guns is no better, if someone is playing with a gun in my vicinity then they need to GTFO!
    And honestly, if they're quitting right off the bat then you're better off. You at least have the oppurtunity to get some help from those open spots.
     

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    My top reasons for quitting:
    - A friend wants to play with me.
    - You join a game which is already losing so badly that the entire team already quitted and you, with a team of 2+/- needs to fight against 8+/-. That is not my 'idea' of 'fun'.
    - You need to go. (Dinner or something else important)
    - There is a cheater in the opposite team destroying your fun.
    and, altough obsolete after a while:
    - When you are level 1-5 and being put in a squad with 7 other players that are level 1-5 and are being put against a squad that has 8 players of level 10-20 or higher. Do you have any idea how frustrated a game gets when that happends? After while, when your level is higher, you can withstand the 'rape'.

    I think the RP bonus needs to be higher when you finish a game, while losing (and ofcourse higher when winning) so that if you quit, the RP bonus that you don't get is really a 'letdown', but not a game ruiner.
    Last edited by Timecontroll; 05-14-2012 at 07:00 PM.
     

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    The issue that people need to realize is that this game is still in Closed Beta. The player pool is very limited at this point in time. You are periodically going to be matched with high level players no matter what you do. I understand and sympathize with the lower level players that do get matched against the high level players. I understand that it is no fun to get steamrolled in a game, it has happened to me in many games, not just in GR:O. Being a Closed Beta you also need to realize that all of your stats, good or bad, will be wiped clean before Open Beta starts.

    On the flip side of this topic I pose this question to you all: Is it fair to the higher level players/fireteams that also sit in prolonged queue's to end up in games where it is 8 vs 3 because the lower levels players on the other team have all quit at the match screen because they saw the levels of the players that they were matched to play against?

    Believe me, if I had a lower level character to play I would have no issue switching to that character during the match screen so that the games were more even as far as levels go. But some of us can't do that as we have either maxed out all our characters or only have 1 character left that is 20+. I know that the players I usually group with all played the other day with our starter gear on to try and even things out a bit, as we can't do anything at this point about our levels.

    Hopefully once this game goes into Open Beta and there is a far larger player poll all of this will no longer be an issue, but until then people just need to play the hand they are dealt.

    -Keg-
     

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    The problem kind of lies in this perception that level somehow has any significant impact on the game. Level if anything is an indication of how long someone has played the game. There are plenty of high level players that suck (like me) and plenty of low level players that own FACE. There are games where I will equip all lvl 1 weapons and armor and even take off my team ability to make it slightly even and still rack up a decent score. Most of the player base that has played this game for a decent amount of time will tell you that their weapon of choice is usually the lvl 5-15 weapons depending on the class.
     

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    What really irks me, is it's always the guys costing us the match that quit. You will NEVER become a better player unless you fight superior opponents. The levels thing is a bad excuse, my spec, that I've been playing since phase 1, and is a hair away from level 30, still dies to level 1 weapons.

    And as far as cheaters go, the only cheating I see is exploiting. I had a match with a couple of these forum members, and once I mentioned they had a guy abusing the prone/slope glitch, they were very quick to get him off his glitch. I've done the same, I noticed a guy abusing this same glitch, down in the subway, and I offered him a chance to stop. His response wasn't real friendly, to say the least. So I gave him a friendly nade. What I should have done, is record and report it, they really don't care much for cheaters here.
     

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    I've seen this handled pretty well in another game. There was a visual indicator next to the players name for leaver status (green, yellow, red) You could leave a few games and stay green but drop too many then it turns yellow then red. You could earn green back by simply completing a few full games. It's important with this that there is an opportunity for players to change games during matchmaking before the game starts. Then most players want to avoid leaving because other people will not want to play on their team. Also DC's need to put you back in your game when you re-log.
     

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    Well every other free to play shooters do not have this problem and its always mixed levels in games.

    IT IS THE LIMITED POPULATION AND THE BROKEN MATCH SYSTEM CAUSING THIS ISSUE!

    Don't complain and force them to implement bull**** you will later regret after the game goes live. People quit on me all day long. I don't come here to complain because i know how they feel and i know the population is limited. People want to quit let em quit who cares. The system needs to be fixed that it joins new players to replace people that left. This will be all it takes to fix this issue. As we know now the systems for match making and team balancing are broken so what do you expect? The rebalance that occurs is such lulz and usually makes it worse if anything.

    People that complain and want to implement restricitons on players that don't understand words and concepts like limited population and broken match system shouldn't even post.

    Also as i said from day one fireteams don't belong playing against random players and if people quit then they have that right. I would expect that to get better with larger population as well. Most people that play didn't load up to get rolled by a fireteam and should be allowed to leave to play with other like players without penalty.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KegaroOne View Post
    The issue that people need to realize is that this game is still in Closed Beta. The player pool is very limited at this point in time. You are periodically going to be matched with high level players no matter what you do. I understand and sympathize with the lower level players that do get matched against the high level players. I understand that it is no fun to get steamrolled in a game, it has happened to me in many games, not just in GR:O. Being a Closed Beta you also need to realize that all of your stats, good or bad, will be wiped clean before Open Beta starts.

    On the flip side of this topic I pose this question to you all: Is it fair to the higher level players/fireteams that also sit in prolonged queue's to end up in games where it is 8 vs 3 because the lower levels players on the other team have all quit at the match screen because they saw the levels of the players that they were matched to play against?

    Believe me, if I had a lower level character to play I would have no issue switching to that character during the match screen so that the games were more even as far as levels go. But some of us can't do that as we have either maxed out all our characters or only have 1 character left that is 20+. I know that the players I usually group with all played the other day with our starter gear on to try and even things out a bit, as we can't do anything at this point about our levels.

    Hopefully once this game goes into Open Beta and there is a far larger player poll all of this will no longer be an issue, but until then people just need to play the hand they are dealt.

    -Keg-
    I 100% agree with and have the same feelings about everything Keg say's in this post.
     

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    IT IS THE LIMITED POPULATION AND THE BROKEN MATCH SYSTEM CAUSING THIS ISSUE
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    This mite be true and i never said i dont understand that there is a limit of players on the beta that play, and that the match system isn't working that good , we all know that !
    I was just indicating that there was a lot , not just one or 2 games, like 6-7-8 games where people where just quiting and i don't think they where all cause someone was asking them to get into a FT or DC'in it was like they didn't even want to play unless they was in a team that had 3-4 high lvl people in it.
    Was going to post some stupid stuff about how people like to troll here ....put im not going to put myself to that lvl :>>>>>>troll hater <<<<<



    For 15-20 years i have been a mentor of kids and the sports they play and have never said its ok to be a quitter and that a quiter will never help or get you anywhere in life .
    and a penatly should be and was put on anyone that quit any of my teams ,games they played in or teams they was post to be in!
    I would say if you play and lose that, that is what builds integrity and maybe you need to look up that word and stop trolling me for my opinion
    Last edited by Tx_Smitty; 05-15-2012 at 01:02 AM.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx_Smitty View Post
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    This mite be true and i never said i dont understand that there is a limit of players on the beta that play, and that the match system isn't working that good , we all know that !
    I was just indicating that there was a lot , not just one or 2 games, like 6-7-8 games where people where just quiting and i don't think they where all cause someone was asking them to get into a FT or DC'in it was like they didn't even want to play unless they was in a team that had 3-4 high lvl people in it.
    Was going to post some stupid stuff about how people like to troll here ....put im not going to put myself to that lvl :>>>>>>troll hater <<<<<



    For 15-20 years i have been a mentor of kids and the sports they play and have never said its ok to be a quitter and that a quiter will never help or get you anywhere in life .
    and a penatly should be and was put on anyone that quit any of my teams ,games they played in or teams they was post to be in!
    I would say if you play and lose that, that is what builds integrity and maybe you need to look up that word and stop trolling me for my opinion

    Well thats the problem with people like you that want to to control what everyone does. This is the internet not real life and last thing people want to do is come from real life of rules and regulations to a game full of rules and regulations. You think anyones going to play this game being forced to play a round with no rewards at all then getting docked rewards for leaving lol. They will just uninstall and go play something else where you can come and go as you please.

    This games about making money and they would be stupid to try and penalize people any further then what they currently have. I think what they have is to much already for alot of reasons some listed by those above me and in my past post.

    When i make posts i don't usually address certain posters but a general response to all the posts i read with an opinion. So your troll comments are way off base. I get sick of people that want to make lists of rules and regulations for games and cry and whine till they get there way. All people do that whine is get stuff nerfed and make for a boring dull game. Numerous people that i have gamed with recently have said they are taking the fun out of this game or that they didn't like the direction it is going. I'm not of the opinion currently but if people such as yourself come on here and beat there drum about things in a beta that are unproven in a full release state im heading that way myself. Once devs put something in a game its hard to get it taken away in the future and thats just from past personal experience in gaming. Don't rush to judge things that are incomplete.

    If you having such difficulty with quitters i suggest you find some friends and run fireteams. If you need a list of good players to team with im more then happy to provide it to you. There is alot of talent in this game and you should have no trouble finding people to fireteam with on a regular basis.
     

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