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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumanTowel View Post
    People need to take a step back and look at the past games in the series. AC has always been about Assassins and Templars. There has never been any bias towards a particular nation. The developers have consistently stated the Assassins are outside of the Revolution and Connor is not a part of either side. Although I would like to see Connor kill a few colonials to shut up the naysayers I trust the developers to deliver on this promise. Any claims the game will be totally pro-america are really only founded on prejudice against America.
    Indeed.

    So let's try and focus on the story of Connor and the Assassin's - if we can..

    In the past they have treated every country with respect and the story flows around events happening there...


    This wil be no different...


    What I am shocked to see if people attacking each other on the forums over what is basically a plot device in the game.. The setting is not the be all and end all of the game, so let's have a little trust in the team - and allow them the space to expand the AC universe a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by n00bfi_97 View Post
    I´m going to have comment on this. Yes, it´s just game, but how does that hurt anyone any less? I don´t understand why people say "HURR DURR it´s just game" but they never say for example, "HURR DURR it´s just a book".

    A sensitive topic is a sensitive topic no matter which way one broaches it.

    I'm not really sure so I'm going to guess, but I think he was trying to remind people that it's just a game, like any other media. And not to take it too seriously.


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    While I do agree that having some footage of Connor killing some colonial Templars would be good and would satisfy a lot of people, I have the strong feeling that when they do a lot of people would be confused and they would simply complain about that instead. Face it, people really always complain about something. It's more of a lose-lose situation.

    And also, just because Connor [and the Assassins] support the colonists during the American Revolution does not mean that the Assassins all support the United States. The game is just one entry in the universe, and if you paid close attention to the Rifts you will see that by modern times the Templars have major influence over a lot of political and economic figures, including Presidents such as FDR, LBJ and George W. Bush. Even if they would portray the United States in a good light now, doesn't mean it's like that in the entire storyline of the series.

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    first off, i'd like to mention that all the gameplay and screens seem to be from the beginning of the revolution, where the redcoats were everywhere. then i'd like to say that knowing Ubisoft there will be a twist involving the colonists at some point in the game so i'm not too worried about it being an 'America, **** yeah!' game. (get the reference?) however i think that showing Connor killing a colonist wouldn't do any harm, all it could do is lay people's fears to rest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazySN View Post
    The hate for Americans in this game is astounding, and it's starting to annoy me whenever someone complains about fighting for the American side in this game. Seriously, it sounds like some of you guys actually wanted to have the British win during the American Revolution. You can bet that if it were any other nation fighting for it's independence, there wouldn't be nearly as much people complaining. While I know Americans certainly aren't saints and committed a lot of atrocities during and after the war, it's their cause that led to the basis of human rights around the globe.

    It's because of the American Revolution that other revolutions ignited all over the globe, like the French Revolution and the Mexican Revolution. So it's not like it would be bad if the Assassins did decide to side with the Americans, as both of their causes clearly did coincide with each other, hypocritical or not.
    It's not about people really hating american's. It's about american's being kind of nationalistic. Which is one of the reasons that started world war 1 and 2. Nationalists are scary and we often don't like nationalists.
    And btw... The dutch were sooner with their war of independence.
    It's just human nature to want to rule over their own lifes (and often rule over other people's life (American slaves, dutch slave trade, belgian colonies).

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    people just whine too much, they want everything there way. We are killing redcoats in the trailer and game because they are taking orders from a government that is telling them to force control on the colonists, who are also British. What is stupid is now people are like "oh, but all redcoats aren't bad guys" wtf. when has that ever mattered, are you saying that every guard that we have killed in all of the AC games were bad, no. They were just taking orders like the redcoats. From what i've seen on this forum, people from England are taking offense to this for no reason, it's a game. There are games where will kill russians, germans, americans, and etc. Get over it, the majority of the enemies will probably be redcoats and we will most likely kill them for the same reason we killed the guards in AC1, 2, B and R. Because they are taking orders.

    Edit: Americans aren't even making this game, and this has nothing to do with nationalism or anything. It's a game where we have been told that we will kill people on both sides of the war. Stop whining

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    I have a feeling that the only reason they haven't shown colonists targets is because they're major spoilers and major targets in the game. Also, let's not forget who was heavily involved in the french-indian war, which subsequently ended with the massacre of Native American villages at the hands of the redcoats, which I believe will be the beginning of the game. But why would we kill colonists? They're just civilians. Now killing people in the continental Army would make more sense, but at the same time, no because there were very few of them and they wouldn't be able to justify it in game, but targets are more easily justified. Also, it's been confirmed that we will fight dutch and German colonists also.

    But what I don't understand is that you're all complaining about how they're not just showing Connor kill them, but brutally, when in the past you guys wanted the kills to be more brutal. I remember ACII being particularly brutal and also ACR, where we killed Turks and not Italians. But no one complained then, but now?

    In Modern Warfare 2 when they showed the attack on the US, I didn't get mad because the white house was burning, I knew it was a game. I didn't go to a forum and get angry because they attacked my homeland and people in a game. Same with Homefront, how bout movies like Letters to Iwo Jima? I didn't get mad because they showed the Japanese killing Americans, why would I? And that actually happened. At least they aren't showing Connor killing civilians, like a certain game named GTA. But oh yeah, it's just a game and it's fun running around in GTA and killing people and cops and everyone. But they show a redcoat being killed and bam, it's all over.

    Ugh, sorry for my little rant. It's just that all this hate against America is annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geomart View Post
    I have a feeling that the only reason they haven't shown colonists targets is because they're major spoilers and major targets in the game. Also, let's not forget who was heavily involved in the french-indian war, which subsequently ended with the massacre of Native American villages at the hands of the redcoats, which I believe will be the beginning of the game. But why would we kill colonists? They're just civilians. Now killing people in the continental Army would make more sense, but at the same time, no because there were very few of them and they wouldn't be able to justify it in game, but targets are more easily justified. Also, it's been confirmed that we will fight dutch and German colonists also.

    But what I don't understand is that you're all complaining about how they're not just showing Connor kill them, but brutally, when in the past you guys wanted the kills to be more brutal. I remember ACII being particularly brutal and also ACR, where we killed Turks and not Italians. But no one complained then, but now?

    In Modern Warfare 2 when they showed the attack on the US, I didn't get mad because the white house was burning, I knew it was a game. I didn't go to a forum and get angry because they attacked my homeland and people in a game. Same with Homefront, how bout movies like Letters to Iwo Jima? I didn't get mad because they showed the Japanese killing Americans, why would I? And that actually happened. At least they aren't showing Connor killing civilians, like a certain game named GTA. But oh yeah, it's just a game and it's fun running around in GTA and killing people and cops and everyone. But they show a redcoat being killed and bam, it's all over.

    Ugh, sorry for my little rant. It's just that all this hate against America is annoying.
    exactly what i've been saying that it would be spoilers, people just love to complain and whine about things

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    For God`s sake people, The Colonists are British and The red Coats are British..
    THEY`RE ALL BRITISH !!! Connor is half British, during that time there was no "American"
    Connor`s such a jerk that he builds an Inn for 2 travelers he`s such a jerk that he helps a man being mugged, he`s such a jerk that he sacrifices his revenge for the Colonists` freedom, he`s such a jerk that he saved entire American cities in the east coast from Templars, he`s such a jerk that he grants a dying Biddle his wish of not taking the Randolph as a prize, He`s such a jerk that he saves a woman from her harassing husband, he`s such a jerk that he saves a foreigner from bullies, he`s such a jerk that he liberates the entire cities of Boston and NY, he`s such a jerk that he provides 2 farmers with a new farm, he`s such a jerk that he funds a house of worship that is not of his belief, he`s such a jerk that he saves Prudence from a bear,

    he`s such a jerk that he helps Norris with his love life, he`s such a jerk that he risked his life bringing Achilles his painting and old robes, he`s such a jerk that he travels to Boston and New York simply to bring materials for the homesteaders, he`s such a jerk that he refuses to call the homesteaders his townsfolk, preferring to instead call them his friends, he`s such a jerk that he`s the first protagonist to offer an Assassin-Templar alliance, he`s such a Jerk he built an entire town for colonists and gave them new lives. He`s such a Jerk that he`s happy for the Colonists when they win their freedom, he`s such a jerk that he gives Lee a chance for one last drink, he`s such a Jerk that he stops Putnam from kicking Hickey after his death, teaching us all that no matter how low a human being sinks, "still a man"....MAN, Connor is SUCH a selfish jerk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin_M View Post
    For God`s sake people, The Colonists are British and The red Coats are British..
    THEY`RE ALL BRITISH !!! Connor is half British, during that time there was no "American"
    Not all of the colonists were British, but yeah. Get that through your thick skulls, people.

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