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    The American Government is the biggest terrorist organization in the world right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geomart View Post
    You make very valid points and I respect you for being very well informed and educated I mean you seem to know enough about how we work when we track down terrorists. I would make more comments, but I do not want to get in trouble with the higher ups (if they stumble upon this conversation). But I assure you, our goal isn't to impede on rights and such, we just want to catch the terrorist, which is getting harder and harder due to them getting smarter with technology and so we must too. What you mentioned about the show of "Person of Interests" is close to what we do, just by being able to monitor online gaming conversations, it will broaden our search. We run all monitored conversations through a software that we input certain phrases that have been used by other terrorists, relating to their operations and stuff like that, then it flags it for us and then we check out the possible suspects. Basically that's how it works. Remember we are here to protect Americans from threats, whether it be internal or external. I enlisted to protect you and all American citizens, we love America and we will do anything to protect it's citizens. Of course, there could also be threats inside our ranks, which we also monitor at all times, we try our best to secure this country from any threat and internal threats are the most dangerous because they are tougher to find. Also, FOLA wouldn't apply to this because it is a National Security risk to release such information.

    Also, the drone was terminated upon capture, it was completely wiped dry of any information and the inner workings self-destructed. We don't go into any situation without thinking of those risks, plus we still have the information the drone was carrying safe with us, but the drone does not work anymore.

    But as you are a citizen, you have the right to worry or panic that your rights are being impeded and you also have the right to free speech. I am glad you are exercising that right!
    The only three points, the first of which is rather mute, that I will argue. The first being that you may say that it was wiped clean, but you can never truly wipe a computer. As long as some of the internal hardware exists, it's possible to pull some data from it. The Iranians even said they got some data. And even if they didn't, I imagine that there would still be other information gained from having such an item in their posession. But that's a story for another time.


    Second of all, the truth of the matter is, as good, and pure, as your intentions may be with something like this, it really does open the door for a lot of things. Even if you aren't going to use it as a way to limit our personal rights, limit DRM, infringe on copyrights, and infilitrate companies, the door has still been opened for you to do so. At this point, if something like this were to make it through the respected Government agencies, I believe the foundation for such atrocities will have already been laid. This is the blunt of my fears.

    That said, I do believe FOIA would actually apply here, as it applies to all non critical information not directly involving national security. That said, I cited a Supreme Court Case earlier. I'll try to find it to further explain what I mean. You have to understand that I am not refering to information regarding terrorist, and terrorist activities, but information regarding the rest of us.


    Quote Originally Posted by frogger504 View Post
    It is totally okay because it is for America, it's for your defense! The terrorists will get you if you aren't monitored 24/7!

    Did yiou guys hear about the 30,000 Spy Drones going above the US to survey the entire country at all times?
    Let us remember that we are a country of the people, for the people.

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    If it's any consolation, the United States of Europe isn't far behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle_of_Doom View Post
    Let us remember that we are a country of the people, for the people.
    I lol'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle_of_Doom View Post
    Let us remember that we are a country of the people, for the people.
    Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......'Points and laughs....'

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    Let's not let this discussion escalate please. -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightRey View Post
    Let's not let this discussion escalate please. -_-
    You'd have to be here to understand I guess..

    Also, this is the discussion isn't it?

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    The discussion is about the possible misuse of gaming technology by the US government. Not how much you personally hate the US and your opinion of them as a nation of terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixKeys View Post
    The discussion is about the possible misuse of gaming technology by the US government. Not how much you personally hate the US and your opinion of them as a nation of terrorists.
    I never said I hated the US... did I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogger504 View Post
    You'd have to be here to understand I guess..

    Also, this is the discussion isn't it?
    The discussion is about the motivation of the US government to spy on console gamers as a ways to monitor terrorists, who are using the online chatrooms consoles provide as an easy way to have an untraceable conversation over the internet. It is in no way about whether the US government is "good" or "bad" and I would refrain from turning this into such a discussion as it is strictly against the rules. The topic on its own is already quite a grey area.

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