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[dougoberle]

what i think helped me was i had to think simple for me all this information is locked in a children s song called Doh Ray Me, that song is the KEY to understanding all of these modes and positions

I agree - the Sound Of Music tune is a great way of knowing what note comes next, because you can sing it in your head before you hit the note. Even if you are practicing the Dorain mode in A minor, start a whole step down on the 3rd fret (G), which is the "Doe" in the song. Then procede to the first note in the Dorian mode is the "Ray" (5th fret - A), and so on. Even extend it up to the Mixolydian mode - start on the "Doe" (3rd fret G), then "Ray" (5th fret A), then "Me" (7th fret), then "Fa" (8th fret), THEN start the mixolydian vertical mode at the 10th fret.

Perhaps a big part of the illusion of complexity is the collection of exotic names. I think it simplifies it when you know that it is all just the same scale, just starting at different places, and it is good to know how to play the scale everywhere, and which chords go along with that scale.

[I_GunnyBass_I]

Great post, please keep it up.

Its funny, I just got the G major scale assignment from my music teacher (yes, lessons + rocksmith) yesterday, and I actually almost understood most of what you said. Only thing he has me doing is counting the steps 1-8(7) and understanding that there is a half step between 3 and 4 and 7 and 8.

[crispyfunk]

the part about these modes that has really got me excited about learning is once you can see the 7 different patterns for any one scale you have learned all the other keys(scales) at the same time its like a knowledge BOMB you start thinking (im going to learn one scale) and it EXPLODES and then you know all the different scales

you just have to start at a different position(mode) and go from their and your changing keys LOL simplicity at its best IMHO


thank you for the info i am glad i have someone to point me in the write direction , i cant wait to understand more about this blue note your speaking of and the other neo- classical scale your speaking of

thank you for your time it is much appreciated.

[dougoberle]

Great post, please keep it up.

I'm glad it helps. Playing scales doesn't sound like much fun, but playing them to music makes it much better, and it is so worth it once you know them backwards and forwards.

I have a long day of hiking tomorrow...I will update with more on Saturday: transitioning to using the blue note and harmonic minors. They are a lot easier than you think, and they sound really cool.

[mtnbkr123]

Thank you very much for the awesome write up.

Can you edit your post to add the scales mentioned at the end?

Mike

[Dizzyg12]

I prefer he nickeleback theory of guitar.....tune down, learn 3 bar cords, whine like a *****. Repeat.

[FragDaddy34]

Thank you Sooooooo much Doug for what you posted. Still not smart enough to understand 90% of it, but it seems a small amount may have found it's way into the dark cavern! I am going to print those off, and try and devote time each day before I play RS and see if that helps. Thanks again for all the time and trouble.

[DreamAwake]

The ones that work together are often comprised of notes in the same scale and key.

Same scale and different key? What's a key?

[The determining factor is which note you consider to be the root note.

Root note?

The seven modes whose frightening names you might hear thrown about by guitar players can all be played in one pattern

Seven modes into one pattern?


Also, which scale is provided in the post? G major?


I'm going to play the scale before my brain explodes. My trouble is hearing the note ring out and remembering how it sounds.. I just want to pluck them all and get it over with..maybe vocally speaking each note as I play will help.

[Flipper153]

enjoyed this read ! I just started playing guitar when ROCKSMITH was released, today I'm at level 9 with a player i created in Feb when the patch came out

anyway .... I asked a couple of friends for guitar advice and what was suggested was scales and picking techniques

Dweezil Zappa suggested Pentatonic scales

I like to warm up with SCALE RUNNER. I unusually play all 11 varieties and I've scored over a million points on a couple (major and lydian??). Now when I play I can occasionally hear the scale pattern in the songs I play

looking forward to more posts from dougoberle !

[DreamAwake]

I like to warm up with SCALE RUNNER. I unusually play all 11 varieties

Brilliant idea! *Steals it*