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[JumpInTheFire13]

I'm quite sure Connor won't be a descendant of Ezio or Altair. Of course, I have no proof, but it would make him more important if he was unrelated to the other two.

[Puppet627]

I hope family trees are included in the updated encyclopedia...

[OriginalMiles]

Indeed. All we know is that, as of 1257 (the Mongol siege of Masyaf), Darim had not fathered any children; this could have changed afterward. As for the question posted by the OP: Whilst it's currently unconfirmed whether Connor is related to either Altair or Ezio, there is about a 50% chance of that being the case. If we work on the assumption that Ezio is related to Desmond via his paternal line, then there are two possibilities.

One: Connor is unrelated to either Ezio or Altair, and the three bloodlines only converge when Desmond is concieved. This would mean that Ezio and Altair's bloodlines do meet at some point after Flavia but prior to William. Two: Connor is related to either Ezio or Altair (either through Desmond's paternal or maternal line) and either Ezio or Altair (dependant on who is not related to Connor) bloodline only converges with Desmond's conception.

Simply put, there is a good chance Connor is related to either Ezio or Altair; but if he isn't, that then means that at some point our two previous heroes bloodlines do meet before William Miles is born.



Yeah, there's no possible way for Connor, Lucius, Aquilius or Accipiter to have joined Desmond's bloodline and still be related to him without being related to one of his parents... Those four characters are all related to at least one of the three playable characters' we've encountered.

I only put them separate because I wasn't sure.

[MasterSimaYi]

Okay, let me just clear a few things up:

• Desmond is descended from Adam, Aquilus, Altaïr, Ezio and Connor, not Accipiter. Accipiter is Aquilus' cousin, and an ancestor to Jonathan Hawk, who is not confirmed to be a canon character yet.
• Aquilus, Altaïr, Ezio and Connor are not related to each other; their link is Desmond. Their bloodlines may have intertwined before Desmond's parents were born, but none of them share any blood relation to one another. Matt Turner, lead writer of Assassin's Creed III, confirmed that they are not related to one another in an interview with EscoBlades: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IPZJaerqqI.
• It's completely unknown to which side of Desmond's family the aforementioned ancestors belong to.
• Clay is not descended from Flavia or Marcello, but from an illegitimate child Ezio years before. Read up on that in Subject 16's database entry in Revelations.
• Clay is not descended from Altaïr.
• Lucius is Aquilus' father so putting him in a different bloodline in one of those family trees makes no sense. Assuming that you meant Lugos, he is not known to share any relation with Desmond at all and is also quite unlikely.

Don't know if this all had been cleared up yet, but I felt like doing it regardless. I've made an attempt at creating Desmond's family tree here - http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki...#Desmond_Miles - without adding any speculation to it.

[Abeonis]

Okay, let me just clear a few things up:

• Desmond is descended from Adam, Aquilus, Altaïr, Ezio and Connor, not Accipiter. Accipiter is Aquilus' cousin, and an ancestor to Jonathan Hawk, who is not confirmed to be a canon character yet.
• Aquilus, Altaïr, Ezio and Connor are not related to each other; their link is Desmond. Their bloodlines may have intertwined before Desmond's parents were born, but none of them share any blood relation to one another. Matt Turner, lead writer of Assassin's Creed III, confirmed that they are not related to one another in an interview with EscoBlades: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IPZJaerqqI.
• It's completely unknown to which side of Desmond's family the aforementioned ancestors belong to.
• Clay is not descended from Flavia or Marcello, but from an illegitimate child Ezio years before. Read up on that in Subject 16's database entry in [l]Revelations[/l].
• Clay is not descended from Altaïr.
• Lucius is Aquilus' father so putting him in a different bloodline in one of those family trees makes no sense. Assuming that you meant Lugos, he is not known to share any relation with Desmond at all and is also quite unlikely.

Don't know if this all had been cleared up yet, but I felt like doing it regardless. I've made an attempt at creating Desmond's family tree here - http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki...#Desmond_Miles - without adding any speculation to it.

**** it Sima, I was gonna post that link! XD

[OriginalMiles]

My updated family tree.


The ? means I wasn't sure if they were joint in that parent's ancestry, and this version is a bit less speculative, as I think it's confirmed Ezio and Altair's ancestry never crossed until Desmond was conceived and Connor and Aquilius never are just a guess.

[Gil_217]

Okay, let me just clear a few things up:

• Desmond is descended from Adam, Aquilus, Altaïr, Ezio and Connor, not Accipiter. Accipiter is Aquilus' cousin, and an ancestor to Jonathan Hawk, who is not confirmed to be a canon character yet.
• Aquilus, Altaïr, Ezio and Connor are not related to each other; their link is Desmond. Their bloodlines may have intertwined before Desmond's parents were born, but none of them share any blood relation to one another. Matt Turner, lead writer of Assassin's Creed III, confirmed that they are not related to one another in an interview with EscoBlades: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IPZJaerqqI.
• It's completely unknown to which side of Desmond's family the aforementioned ancestors belong to.
• Clay is not descended from Flavia or Marcello, but from an illegitimate child Ezio years before. Read up on that in Subject 16's database entry in [l]Revelations[/l].
• Clay is not descended from Altaïr.
• Lucius is Aquilus' father so putting him in a different bloodline in one of those family trees makes no sense. Assuming that you meant Lugos, he is not known to share any relation with Desmond at all and is also quite unlikely.

Don't know if this all had been cleared up yet, but I felt like doing it regardless. I've made an attempt at creating Desmond's family tree here - http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki...#Desmond_Miles - without adding any speculation to it.

Just one thing: if they (Aquilus, Altaïr, Ezio and Connor) are not related, and since they are all ancestors of Desmond, some of those bloodlines must've crossed before Desmond was born, some of them have to converge somewhere, as OriginalMiles showed. Right?

Edit: I'm not saying all of them of course, since some of them only converged when Desmond was conceived.

[MasterSimaYi]

@OriginalMiles: That still is speculative, we don't know if each ancestor is from each of Desmond's grandparents. Aquilus, Altaïr and Ezio may be from Desmond's mother's side, and Connor may be from his father's side, or something like that. We are completely in the dark on that, so we can't possibly make an accurate family tree. And it's Aquilus, not Aquilius. His wife's name is Valeria.

@Gil_217: Yes, their bloodlines converged at one point. Either in Desmond, Desmond's parents or some time before. But they each are part of a different bloodline.

[OriginalMiles]

@OriginalMiles: That still is speculative, we don't know if each ancestor is from each of Desmond's grandparents. Aquilus, Altaïr and Ezio may be from Desmond's mother's side, and Connor may be from his father's side, or something like that. We are completely in the dark on that, so we can't possibly make an accurate family tree.

@Gil_217: Yes, their bloodlines converged at one point. Either in Desmond, Desmond's parents or some time before. But they each are part of a different bloodline.

Well if Altair, Ezio and Aquilius are one his mum's side, that just takes away more of Dez's uniqueness, so lets say this, there are 2 on each side, Mum and Dad, 1 is on each Grandparent, and their parents have some of Desmond's unknown ancestors, so when they concieve, they join up until Mrs Miles meets Bill Miles, and they make Desmond, who has all these great ancestors together, and it makes him more unique.

[MasterSimaYi]

Well if Altair, Ezio and Aquilius are one his mum's side, that just takes away more of Dez's uniqueness, so lets say this, there are 2 on each side, Mum and Dad, 1 is on each Grandparent, and their parents have some of Desmond's unknown ancestors, so when they concieve, they join up until Mrs Miles meets Bill Miles, and they make Desmond, who has all these great ancestors together, and it makes him more unique.

I didn't quite understand that at all. We don't really know how the genes thing works. Genes don't add up during conception. When your parents both have blue eyes, that doesn't mean your eyes will be blue-er than both of theirs. But even when disregarding that, Aquilus, Altaïr, Ezio and Connor surely aren't the only ones in Desmond's bloodline with First Civilization DNA; they are only the ones we know if. And if they are, then when three of them are on Desmond's mother's side I can't see how that would take away Desmond's "uniqueness," when William still would have the remaining relevant ancestor in his bloodline.