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[FilipinoNinja67]

@Giaquinto. Hey, i was wondering what i have done to you to make you dislike me. Can you please tell me what it was so i can have something to feel sorry for because right now im clueless. I would understand it if it was coming from Rainin (started a fight with him last month) or nick (sent him a troll message on live thinking he would laugh, it was my fauly for being stupid in the first place) but i don't remember doing anything to you at all except send you messages asking this same question and wanting to patch things up with VAA and SP so i can add my old friends back.

And just to clear things up on why we left, we left because we were neglected and we were not involved with the clan. We gathered people who felt the same way so we could talk and be heard by you and if you didn't listen, then we were going to leave. I don't know what happened next but when i got on everything was blown out of proportion and i messaged you and wesman to see what had happened. I received messages from both of you and you went on about how we were "trying to ruin your clan" and i replied with, "We aren't trying to ruin your clan, we felt neglected and just wanted to talk to you. I am leaving because i am just not having as much fun as i used to, it's nothing personal towards you and or your clan. Good luck Gia.". You messaged me back with, "Thanks for being respectful", then i was removed.

I have absolutely no idea as to what i did in the first place and i just want to know so i can try and fix whatever it was.

Are you being negligent because you don't have an answer, or is it because you don't want to deal with any problems that arise within your clan?

Is it because i sent you too many messages like this one,
"Can yuu just take it to the pm's with wesman? This whole rivalry between SP and VAA is stupid because btoh sides are fueled by misperceptions that can easily be solved by you two just talking about it. We didnt even want to leave in the first place, we were just trying to talk to you about what we disagree with in the way that we were'nt being treated as part of the clan and wesman gathered people that felt the same to talk to you, then i dont even know what happened and we were kicked from VAA. Regardless of what you think (besides the bitterness between you and wesman) we dont have a problem with you but it still seems like you're holding a grudge towards us. You guys both can solve it but neither of you want to. Why? Why can't we all just have fun and push the community and game forward to become a more enjoyable experience? Rivalries are fine until they get to the point where two groups filled with fun and enjoyable people start hating eachother.

I will talk to wesman about the same thing later today

Sincerely- The Beast Machine"

Or what about the time that one of our members had attacked one of yours and all we wanted to know was what had happened, we never accused you of anything and when we did finally find out what happened you still didn't want to try and help us solve it, instead you dismissed the attack of your own member as, "kiddy stuff".

Gia, I have always liked you and have never had nay problem with you at all, until I left and all I want to know is what did I do wrong?

[Chernzobog]

Thinking about Monday for the scrims but date is variable depending on when people can get online. Have a craving to play some more alliance, especially if only 6 people show up, so be prepared for that!

[giaquinto718]

And i ll be holding one saturday 10pm est

[FilipinoNinja67]

Why would I even waste my time trying to talk to you about anything? The same ole VAA treatment...

[pantherthug89]

Okay i've honestly had enough of this crap, I didn't want to post on your clan thread about this but i've already sent PMs to several members of your clan about talking over simply why we left, and several of them flat out ignored me when I knew they didn't have me blocked. This split in the community has gone on long enough and I find it hypocritical that several of you call us children when many of you decide to give us the silent treatment when we try and discuss things like adults.

Some of us felt that the clan was becoming to much of a label than a group of friends playing together and not just the people who left VAA felt that way... I don't blame anyone for their reaction to our departure but from what it seems some people valued their clan label more than friendship and unfortunately thats something I don't want to be apart of. Goes to show how much some people cared about their so called friends and how disposable people are made out to be.

Ignoring the situation isn't working and everyone knows it, I can't force people to be friends with each other and nor do I expect some friendships to be renewed but when everything's said and done It won't be VAA or SP that I will look back on when I'm older but the awesome people that I met and had a great time with. So I humbly ask that we come together and talk about this for the sake of the community. I have always promised to say the entire truth, never cuss anyone out, and be respectful and listen to what you guys have to say. So please stop ignoring our posts because we wont give up on our friends and this community no matter how willing you guys are to do so.

Patiently waiting a response
TXI RAVEN ELITE

[Chernzobog]

You would think some people could take a hint >>

Happy Easter/bunny and egg day, VAA! Scrims tomorrow.

[pantherthug89]

take a hint??? your telling us about hints, take a hint from the people who left your clan for a reason and the other 3/4s that are still in your clan that understand where we were coming from. Its funny how a bunch of 20+ year old adults don't have the maturity to talk about something as basic as a gaming label, you should all be very proud of yourselves....

[FilipinoNinja67]

Exactly, you guys have no reason or excuse to why you won't talk to us. You say you are acting mature but being mature isn't ignoring every problem that comes up, its dealing with your problems.

It's not like we're asking to marry you, we just want an answer to what we did. You won't even tell us why you won't answer us. Are you guys that egotistical?

[RaininStormwake]

Okay seriously nobody has to answer you.. if they aren't answering you there's probably a reason. They probably just don't want to deal with it, and honestly coming into our clan thread and trying to get our attention via a public forum isn't the way to get them to respond. If anything they are ignoring you by principle and i'm just gonna be nice and let you know that is probably the reason. If you want to know something i suggest you send a message to gia on xbox or on the forums in private, and maybe he will tell you. I don't know im not gia nor do i know what's between you guys and him. All i know is when you leave a clan and take a lot of people with you, of course the clan leader isn't going to be happy.

Also, i'd like to comment about the fact that you guys think that some of us think VAA is a tag, that we aren't all friends that do stuff together or something. I can honestly tell you that of the people in VAA right now, very few aren't my friend. I may not play with them or talk to them a lot but when it comes down to it we're friendly with each other and when we scrim we generally have a good time. There's always going to be arguments here and there, we're all human, but when you start talking about the clan/leader behind their back and get together with a bunch of people to discuss how unhappy you are, that to me isn't too cool. If you aren't happy with a clan, by all means tell the leader and leave, or just leave if you don't want to be respectful, but don't try to take people with you and make a new clan. This is just my opinion and i don't know if anyone else shares it but i thought i'd throw it out there. I'm not even saying you did this but from what you've said it certainly seems like it. You said you got together with people that shared the same feelings about the clan and were trying to talk to gia about it. Do you realize that being a clan leader you have to deal with everyones drama? I personally feel like it's fine to be unhappy with things and to try and talk to the clan leader about it, but what's important is how you go about doing that. From what i've seen nobody hates your clan itself, if there are personal differences between some of your members and our's, i think its safe to say that's as far as it goes. I've had personal difference's with a few of your clan, mostly rabidwesmann, but i don't hate him i'm just not really friends with him. People aren't meant to all get along, and that's okay. Chillax guys, VAA doesn't hate SP. <3

[FilipinoNinja67]

We know VAA doesn't hate SP and SP doesn't hate VAA. Gia is the only one that has a problem with us and we just want to know why. It has been months since we left and theres no reason to hold a grudge, from what I've heard Gia did the same thing to HKP and i heard this from former members of HKP.

I tried taking it to the PM's but Gia never responded on here or on xbox, except for the time when we were trying to figure out what went down with tree and even then we didn't get messages with any reason in them, but instead pessimistic replies of how we shouldn't be falsely accusing him of anything. My message that i initially sent him was, "Hey Gia, we heard that something happened to tree and it involved one of our members and you were there. Can you tell me your side of the story?"