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[Xenofex_086]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> - the Cavalry Commander specialization now gives Jousting bonus not for each walked tile but for the final result dramatically decreasing the full damage
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>... says the official source, the almighty readme. However, that's not what I see in the real game. In fact, Mr. Klaus is the seems to be the same unbalanced bastard, just like before.
It appears that, at hero level 10, 2 Cavaliers with this friend deal more damage than 3 Angels (which is, roughly, about three times the value of their "close range" normal damage) - we had pretty much the same situation before the patching. The Cavaliers/Paladins in his army still gut the enemy creatures without leaving them the opportunity to strike back. So I have 2 quiestions:
1. Has anyone experienced the same "problem" or I've encountered some bug/"unfinished change";
2. How exactly is supposed to work this "re-balanced" specialization of his. In numbers. The description is a bit cryptic I think...

[Xenofex_086]

- the Cavalry Commander specialization now gives Jousting bonus not for each walked tile but for the final result dramatically decreasing the full damage

... says the official source, the almighty readme. However, that's not what I see in the real game. In fact, Mr. Klaus is the seems to be the same unbalanced bastard, just like before.
It appears that, at hero level 10, 2 Cavaliers with this friend deal more damage than 3 Angels (which is, roughly, about three times the value of their "close range" normal damage) - we had pretty much the same situation before the patching. The Cavaliers/Paladins in his army still gut the enemy creatures without leaving them the opportunity to strike back. So I have 2 quiestions:
1. Has anyone experienced the same "problem" or I've encountered some bug/"unfinished change";
2. How exactly is supposed to work this "re-balanced" specialization of his. In numbers. The description is a bit cryptic I think...

[Jolly-Joker]

It should have been:
Jousting Bonus 10% per tile, with Klaus' Bonus a percentage raise for each tile, so that the Bonus would be for example 25% per each tile, reaching level, well, probably 15. which resultzed in insane damage.
It should be now 5% per tile and a plus on the ADDED figures, so if the Paladin walked 5 tiles, the Bonus would be 25% with a small plus on this for Klaus' special.
That's how I understood it.

[OoNebsoO]

And it seems that it is that way, Jolly Joker...atleast I got that from my little tests.

5% for every tile as with all cavs, paladins, plus he afflicts 4% (on first level, +2% for each after) more damage per tile.

So, level 1 Klaus with 5 cavs that have 25 attack fighting minotaurs with 2 defense...

1 Tile 246dmg (normal dmg is 225.75dmg, adding 5% jousting bonus and getting 237.04dmg, and at that adding 4% Klaus' bonus, rounded down)
2 Tiles 258dmg (225.75%*10%*4%)
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Level 3 Klaus has 8% bonus, and level 5 12%. So I assume he indeed gets 2% more per level (tried just with level 1, 3 and 5).

Like the way they did him now, but have to say, still not sure if it was needed to nerf overall jousting bonus to 5%.

[silversurfur8]

"still not sure if it was needed to nerf overall jousting bonus to 5%."

Mostly in order to discuss, I'd have to say that yes, that nerf was needed simply to drop paladins from a 7th teir equivalent unit back to 6th teir, like they should be. Before they were just too powerful, to the point that with almost any hero I would pull those (and mabye an archangel or 7) from any Haven town I conquered. It didn't matter my army or the morale decriments; if those paladins get to move once, the entire battle could swing in my favor (and then think about Luck on top of that...). They needed something, imho.

[Xenofex_086]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jolly-Joker:
It should have been:
Jousting Bonus 10% per tile, with Klaus' Bonus a percentage raise for each tile, so that the Bonus would be for example 25% per each tile, reaching level, well, probably 15. which resultzed in insane damage.
It should be now 5% per tile and a plus on the ADDED figures, so if the Paladin walked 5 tiles, the Bonus would be 25% with a small plus on this for Klaus' special.
That's how I understood it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks... However, what I seen in the game is 20 Paladins, dealing about 6000 damage to Hell Charges. Just like before...
By the way, I patched the game with the so-called EU version of the patch, so again - has anyone exeperienced the same problem with the same patch?