What is your favorite nation? POLL | Forums

[PersianImm0rtal]

I havent seen one of these polls yet so I am currious.

[esiex3]

weres japan?????

[Spacemanc]

Main problem with the poll is the "most powerful" question.

Imo US is most powerful early/mid game. Germany is most powerful late game.

[Kuoting]

UK is OP.

They have best fighter bomber and can send elite paratroops to cut supply lines very easily in early game (especially in large map like "above the river"). They still have 3 supply incomes when one of yours is cut. Its impossible to build bunkers near every supply depot. The red devils are really unstoppable.

UK's airfield should be more expensive or need upgrade to get paratroops IMO.

[Veniathan]

Silly poll, each nation has it's strenghts and weaknesses, I think the current balance isn't too bad.

I do tend to play France('39), USSR('42/'45) and Germany('42/'45) though.

[endde]

Originally posted by Kuoting:
UK is OP.

They have best fighter bomber and can send elite paratroops to cut supply lines very easily in early game (especially in large map like "above the river"). They still have 3 supply incomes when one of yours is cut. Its impossible to build bunkers near every supply depot. The red devils are really unstoppable.

UK's airfield should be more expensive or need upgrade to get paratroops IMO.

lol,USA have exactly the same fighter bomber, same speed, same damage ONLY cheaper ! If paratroopers are hiding in woods, use recon, if in city, use air recon, and also UK paratroopers AT capabilities is at least 7 times lower than German FalschimJ?ger. Uk Is very well balanced cause they don't have almost any recon(except air,and bunker) and UK tanks are "0" compared to german,usa,soviet, so air is only UK advanatge, and also against base rush or whatevah.. use recon (SDFKz ? if german) at least 2-3 to completly overwhelm UK rush.
P.S L2P ^^ Gain experince, use enemy tactics until someone beats you and then you know how to defeat that strategy !

[nhsk]

Funny how decent player continually seem to counter my early para rush which beat n00bs... That maybe 30 / 45 bucks wasted plus a Hurricane that is useless thanks to either a heavy caliber AA or clever use of camo / woods / forests.

And where is "random" option? I tend to use that alot to get to know the different factions and what is good / not-so-good.

[CricetoMannaro]

Heya I like and play mostly USA. That's because it is a really balanced nation... not the best in anything but good enough in everything .
I prefer to play with a nation which is agile and can display many different play-styles . After all ... the name of the game is ruse and how can I deceive my enemy if I play always in the same way ???

I voted UK as best , since It is indeed a bit ahead of any other nation. The early para-troop rush is very difficult to counter. It is almost impossible to prevent the enemy from gaining a significant advantage by setting paras into strategic points of the map. However, as many other nations, UK is highly specialized and does not fit my play-style.

USA presents many options for attacking and defending and can counter the most diffuse rushes (UK para-troops, USA bombers, Italian infantry, French early bunkering and Russian spam ). The mayor strength lies in the good price to power ratio of its units and the quality of all of them (air/infantry/armored).

USA best units are:

mobile AA: available from early game is very powerful and fast. Adds good AA coverage with great mobility which makes attacking easier. The available upgrade adds armor which makes it immune to Artillery and Bombing :P. Most important quality: it can shoot while moving . Worst weakness: very fragile against artillery and bombing(need to upgrade fast).

Armored artillery (aka priest): also available from the early game. It is armored, therefore almost immune to other artillery and bombing . It is fast enough

Recons: I find USA recons among the best of the game. Not really the best as single unit... but the best price-wise. The basic infantry recon (the jeep) is really cheap, hence spammable. What I really can't live without, is an air recon available from the beginning (no research needed), like the USA air recon . The armored recon is a bit expensive but good and fast.

Tanks: Sherman and Piercing are good enough to challenge most of the tanks other nations can build. The price is also nice.

Defenses: with cheap defenses against all 3 type of units (air,infantry and armored) USA have always a good "oh crap" escape mechanism!

Reasonable AT and experimental units.

Worst weaknesses:
I find the most crippling weakness the initial research price for fighter-bombers. Also, all USA units works well if together. You can't expect to win with recons and powerful tanks , if you have no AA units. You can't win with AA,recons and tanks if you are not bringing some artillery along! You can't expect to win with artillery,piercing tanks,recons and mobile AA if you don't bring along a bunch of infantry and fighter bombers ;-). Most of the more expensive units of your enemy can out-range your units ^^! Therefore, only a coordinate attack can win your way out of the battle.

I don't say other nations do not have the same problem... I just say that USA needs coordination more than any other nation ^^. I could break enemy lines with a bunch of German King tiger tanks and few flak 88, but I won't ever try to do the same with American units ^^.

[GK_]

Uk Is very well balanced cause they don't have almost any recon(except air,and bunker) and UK tanks are "0" compared to german,usa,soviet, so air is only UK advanatge, and also against base rush or whatevah..

I agree UK is balanced - very expensive buildings (other than airflield) and research (50$ for average medium tank).

But dude... UK got no recn?! The got best recon in game! Outposts are cheap and gives protection against wood atacks, and... you ever saw their armored reacon? after upgrade its best reacon in game - armor 3 and 2AT! I play UK for that powerfull "forrest tank"... And its recon, also.

[Kuoting]

Originally posted by endde:
lol,USA have exactly the same fighter bomber, same speed, same damage ONLY cheaper ! If paratroopers are hiding in woods, use recon, if in city, use air recon, and also UK paratroopers AT capabilities is at least 7 times lower than German FalschimJ?ger. Uk Is very well balanced cause they don't have almost any recon(except air,and bunker) and UK tanks are "0" compared to german,usa,soviet, so air is only UK advanatge, and also against base rush or whatevah.. use recon (SDFKz ? if german) at least 2-3 to completly overwhelm UK rush.
P.S L2P ^^ Gain experince, use enemy tactics until someone beats you and then you know how to defeat that strategy !

Could you share how USA counter paratroops rush in above the river?

UK has advanced fighter in the begining so its impossible to couter paratroops by fighters. You can't prevent paratroops since its difficult to predict where they will drop. And the fighter bomber coming later can easily kill your recon, light tank and single anti-air if they seperate. It is just impossible to stop UK cut at least one of your supply line. And you have to fight with 2/3 incomes. Once UK take advantage in the begining, they can do many things to fool USA opponents.

In blitz, maybe you can counter UK with fast ground unit push. But in above the river UK is hard to defeat IMO. Seriously, I want to know a efficient way to counter UK paratroops in above the river with USA.