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[x626xedw4rd]

Two topics here:

1) Airborne (and others)
So, what is the deal with SGB and JSF riflemen not having their final Attack purchase with random battalions? For instance, in SGB, the Airborne battalion can only buy up to Attack 2 for Riflemen, but the Mechanized I think can buy up to Attack 3 for Riflemen. You may say "Well, Airborne gets a bonus +10% attack for Riflemen," and that sounds reasonable, until you check some of the other battalions that give no bonuses to Riflemen yet don't offer Attack 3. Why? I see no reasoning for this.

2) EFEC battalions are bs.
Don't give me the l2p crap; I do well enough, and haven't lost to EFEC in the past 5 matches (The only I've found in like 2 days as far as I can remember). First of all, all EFEC battalions offer the same Attack upgrades for their Riflemen. Moreover, EFEC gets use out of its upgrades for all almost all units when they are rank Regular. With JSF and SGB, our units generally have to be Hardened to benefit from anything useful. So when we lose a unit, it means something. We have to work with trash until they rank up (after 900 fights) to Hardened, whereas EFEC can shrug off KIAs because they can get to regular and benefit from everything in a few battles. The supposed uniqueness of SGB's defense/health is worthless considering they have to be ranked up so high to benefit from the upgrades, and not to mention the health differences aren't even that noticeable. However, EFEC's speed difference, especially in their base speed + their ridiculous Mobility upgrades at low ranks, completely offsets any uniqueness of SGB.

Any thoughts?

[x626xedw4rd]

Two topics here:

1) Airborne (and others)
So, what is the deal with SGB and JSF riflemen not having their final Attack purchase with random battalions? For instance, in SGB, the Airborne battalion can only buy up to Attack 2 for Riflemen, but the Mechanized I think can buy up to Attack 3 for Riflemen. You may say "Well, Airborne gets a bonus +10% attack for Riflemen," and that sounds reasonable, until you check some of the other battalions that give no bonuses to Riflemen yet don't offer Attack 3. Why? I see no reasoning for this.

2) EFEC battalions are bs.
Don't give me the l2p crap; I do well enough, and haven't lost to EFEC in the past 5 matches (The only I've found in like 2 days as far as I can remember). First of all, all EFEC battalions offer the same Attack upgrades for their Riflemen. Moreover, EFEC gets use out of its upgrades for all almost all units when they are rank Regular. With JSF and SGB, our units generally have to be Hardened to benefit from anything useful. So when we lose a unit, it means something. We have to work with trash until they rank up (after 900 fights) to Hardened, whereas EFEC can shrug off KIAs because they can get to regular and benefit from everything in a few battles. The supposed uniqueness of SGB's defense/health is worthless considering they have to be ranked up so high to benefit from the upgrades, and not to mention the health differences aren't even that noticeable. However, EFEC's speed difference, especially in their base speed + their ridiculous Mobility upgrades at low ranks, completely offsets any uniqueness of SGB.

Any thoughts?

[SkywalkerDSP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by x626xedw4rd:
Two topics here:

1) Airborne (and others)
So, what is the deal with SGB and JSF riflemen not having their final Attack purchase with random battalions? For instance, in SGB, the Airborne battalion can only buy up to Attack 2 for Riflemen, but the Mechanized I think can buy up to Attack 3 for Riflemen. You may say "Well, Airborne gets a bonus +10% attack for Riflemen," and that sounds reasonable, until you check some of the other battalions that give no bonuses to Riflemen yet don't offer Attack 3. Why? I see no reasoning for this.

2) EFEC battalions are bs.
Don't give me the l2p crap; I do well enough, and haven't lost to EFEC in the past 5 matches (The only I've found in like 2 days as far as I can remember). First of all, all EFEC battalions offer the same Attack upgrades for their Riflemen. Moreover, EFEC gets use out of its upgrades for all almost all units when they are rank Regular. With JSF and SGB, our units generally have to be Hardened to benefit from anything useful. So when we lose a unit, it means something. We have to work with trash until they rank up (after 900 fights) to Hardened, whereas EFEC can shrug off KIAs because they can get to regular and benefit from everything in a few battles. The supposed uniqueness of SGB's defense/health is worthless considering they have to be ranked up so high to benefit from the upgrades, and not to mention the health differences aren't even that noticeable. However, EFEC's speed difference, especially in their base speed + their ridiculous Mobility upgrades at low ranks, completely offsets any uniqueness of SGB.

Any thoughts? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, the first one i haven't heard of, are you sure its not just grayed out?

And the second, i would have to disagree. My EFEC tank units have to be level 3 to be able to use explosive shells, for example, and thats a very useful upgrade. I haven't really checked, but i wouldn't be surprised if all level 1 upgrades required the same rank, and all level 2, and 3 ect

[Chaation]

Please, just look at how badly the EFEC is getting it's arse handed to it on the PS3. While I pity all those euros, it just serves to prove my point that the EFEC is not any stronger than any other faction....


It's just that your faction's players suck right now .

[Precursor2552]

Perhaps you don't notice the health upgrades but I do I have lost many gunship v gunship battles when my choppers orginally had the advantage why? because your gunships take forever to kill.

[SB_Style]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Precursor2552:
Perhaps you don't notice the health upgrades but I do I have lost many gunship v gunship battles when my choppers orginally had the advantage why? because your gunships take forever to kill. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen.

[johnmas07]

I'm gonna agree, on a head to head battle the Russians always win if the units are the same, the only problem is the Euros are fast enough to get away, they're perfect for hit and run, oh and don't deny it the Euros have the best transports in the game

[Precursor2552]

Oh I wouldn't deny that I love my transports they're the only thing that has a shot at same unit combat but I usually have infantry to support them so I don't really have just transport v transport combat.

[Exzeebo]

Some upgrades are unique to either the downloadable Tom Clancy Swag pack, or the Gamestop "unique" battalions.

I beat single player with SGB, and my Riflemen had an Attack 3 upgrade. My brother just started playing around with the game on his own account, has not downloaded anything, and his SGB Riflemen only have Attack 2 upgrade.

[Scarface6174]

Wazzup Ed! I completely agree with you on the 1st point. That's just...... wrong. If you're an airborne unit that has infantry as their main attack force, then why should they not have attack 3 when my riflemen in an assault battalion are able to get it and use it?

As for the EFEC are concerned.....I dunno man. The EFEC proally have their specialty at lvl regular, just as we get our special attacks for tanks and arty at regular. I ain't checked this yet, but it that could be how it goes.