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[Erretje_1.JaVA]

Spitfire MK.VIII captured and repainted for evaluation by the Germans after it landed on enemy territory.

Probably a Mk.IX in real live (not sure) I think it looks far better on a MK.VIII.

I have no info about this plane at all, only one colour photograph and 2 B&W's , So if anyone has some info about it I would like to know

I hope I have the yellow right...couldn't find the RGB numbers for it

[Erretje_1.JaVA]

Spitfire MK.VIII captured and repainted for evaluation by the Germans after it landed on enemy territory.

Probably a Mk.IX in real live (not sure) I think it looks far better on a MK.VIII.

I have no info about this plane at all, only one colour photograph and 2 B&W's , So if anyone has some info about it I would like to know

I hope I have the yellow right...couldn't find the RGB numbers for it

[Friendly_flyer]

Very interesting skin!

The yellow looks a tad to pale for my eyes. Germans had two yellows for markings, RLM 04 for tactical markings, also used to mark trainers, at least in the navy, and RLM 27, mostly used for theatre markings.

What I see in the photo reminds me most of RLM 04. It a sort of mustard yellow, and looking at the grass in the photo, it is clear that it has lost some colour over the years. Here's the colour-codes for the two yellows (From Simmers Paintshop)

RLM 04: R:228 G:164 B:0

RLM 27: R:243 G:188 B:0

[AH_Gonzo]

Another great looking Spit Erretje, very wel done!

[Hydra444]

Kick ***

[Willy.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Erretje_1.JaVA:
Probably a Mk.IX in real live (not sure) I think it looks far better on a MK.VIII.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Great looking skin

I think your right putting it on the Mk8, as the photo seems to show rear landing gear doors. As Mk9's didn't have a retractable tailwheel, but the Mk8 did.

[F19Gladiator]

An odd one for sure. In "On Special Missions" by Smith/Creek/Petrick, Classic Publ., reveal a lot of info on captured a/c. The photo caption of this Spitfire describes it as:
...a Spitfire PR XI, Possibly MB945 captured on 1 March 1944. Flown by "Zirkus Rosarius" coded T9+BB. 'BB' was in black.
"Zirkus Rosarius" was a unit familiarizing pilots with a/c of the allied forces by touring fighter units and demonstrating captured a/c.
The unit was led by Theodor Rosarios who remained in charge until the end of WW2.
By July 1944 they used a P-51B T9+HK, P-47D T9+FK, Hawker Typhoon T9+GK (Crashed on 28 July 1944) and Spitfire IX T9+EK. A P-38G T9+XB was also on but not serviceable.(Later, a new arrival P-38 T9+MK 44-23725 presented to the Germans by defector Lt. Monti on October 13 '44 in Italy came to Rosarius)
According to Rosarius the maximum number of a/c in inventory at one time was 22, including; 4 Mustangs, 3 Thunderbolts; 3 Spitfires (Mk IX, XI and XII), 2 Typhoons, 2 Tempest, 2 Mosquitoes, a Harward, a YAK9 and what was probably a YAK3.
Would be quite a museum today!
When looking at a larger photo of the skinned a/c it is clear that it is "T9" and not "T8" in white. The "BB" in black is not visible on the photo.

[WarWolfe_1]

F19Gladiator,

You have photos or profiles of the captured P-47? Maybe before and after type stuff?

Thank you.

[pielkop]

first of all great skin Erretje ! and to Warwolf

i have profiles of three captured P-47's .one of them ,the most famous called Beetle as three profiles a before ,one made for a propaganda movie and a after .so if f19 gladiator does not have any PM me and i will get them to you ,i also have profiles of 3 captured p-51's and a p-38G

[Erretje_1.JaVA]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">An odd one for sure. In "On Special Missions" by Smith/Creek/Petrick, Classic Publ., reveal a lot of info on captured a/c. The photo caption of this Spitfire describes it as:
...a Spitfire PR XI, Possibly MB945 captured on 1 March 1944. Flown by "Zirkus Rosarius" coded T9+BB. 'BB' was in black.
"Zirkus Rosarius" was a unit familiarizing pilots with a/c of the allied forces by touring fighter units and demonstrating captured a/c.
The unit was led by Theodor Rosarios who remained in charge until the end of WW2.
By July 1944 they used a P-51B T9+HK, P-47D T9+FK, Hawker Typhoon T9+GK (Crashed on 28 July 1944) and Spitfire IX T9+EK. A P-38G T9+XB was also on but not serviceable.(Later, a new arrival P-38 T9+MK 44-23725 presented to the Germans by defector Lt. Monti on October 13 '44 in Italy came to Rosarius)
According to Rosarius the maximum number of a/c in inventory at one time was 22, including; 4 Mustangs, 3 Thunderbolts; 3 Spitfires (Mk IX, XI and XII), 2 Typhoons, 2 Tempest, 2 Mosquitoes, a Harward, a YAK9 and what was probably a YAK3.
Would be quite a museum today!
When looking at a larger photo of the skinned a/c it is clear that it is "T9" and not "T8" in white. The "BB" in black is not visible on the photo. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thx all...

Many Thanks Gladiator! Nice info....
are there more photographs of this aircraft in that book?
always nice to have some reference Pictures

I shall make some changes (T8--&gt;T9 etc.), and upload it tommorow at 1java.org