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[strawberryq2008]

I'm playing terroist hunt on trainyard. I'm behind the first traincar you get behind after your spawn. I go to throw a grenade out and my guy (A rainbow six highly-trained solider). Leans all the way out.
I mean all the way out to throw the grenade. He didn't just put his hand half way out and back toss it.
No he leaned all the way out allowing a great headshot to the cpu.
Wtf type of garbage is this?You couldn't ask a real solider what'd he do with that problem. Instead of making bishop look like some sort of untrained ******.

[strawberryq2008]

I'm playing terroist hunt on trainyard. I'm behind the first traincar you get behind after your spawn. I go to throw a grenade out and my guy (A rainbow six highly-trained solider). Leans all the way out.
I mean all the way out to throw the grenade. He didn't just put his hand half way out and back toss it.
No he leaned all the way out allowing a great headshot to the cpu.
Wtf type of garbage is this?You couldn't ask a real solider what'd he do with that problem. Instead of making bishop look like some sort of untrained ******.

[xoops]

The current consoles might be hyped as ''next gen'', but Ubisoft is capitalising on the fact that the Darwinian evolution of the brain of its typical customer occurs at a much slower pace than console hardware...

Just kidding...

Here is a free advice for you: If you see the Ubisoft logo on a game box and you nevertheless buy it, then you are truly asking for trouble...

[DrZ0001]

Do you really even care? It's a grenade throw! So what if it isn't 100% realistic, at least he knows where to throw it. This is a reminder, a distinction between games and the real world. Don't get them more confused than you already have. Don't take every little detail of a game so seriously, it's not the end of the world if his grenade throw isn't EXACTLY how you wanted it. I don't even care to look for dumb stuff like this.

Lets say your teammate does this throw perfectly as you invisioned it. Where is the challenge in that? The CPU is not supposed to be a perfect robot, it's supposed to be truly realistic. Real people screw up. Real people aren't perfect. If your allies' AI was perfect, they would never get hurt/die which would make the game pointless! You could hide behind a wall and keep ordering them around. The team is meant to support the main char and not be the entire game. They aren't supposed to be perfectly flawless, it would eliminate a good challenge. What would that be? Reviving your AI teammate in the middle of open fire, very difficult on higher difficulties.

[DexLuther]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DrZ0001:
Do you really even care? It's a grenade throw! So what if it isn't 100% realistic, at least he knows where to throw it. This is a reminder, a distinction between games and the real world. Don't get them more confused than you already have. Don't take every little detail of a game so seriously, it's not the end of the world if his grenade throw isn't EXACTLY how you wanted it. I don't even care to look for dumb stuff like this.

Lets say your teammate does this throw perfectly as you invisioned it. Where is the challenge in that? The CPU is not supposed to be a perfect robot, it's supposed to be truly realistic. Real people screw up. Real people aren't perfect. If your allies' AI was perfect, they would never get hurt/die which would make the game pointless! You could hide behind a wall and keep ordering them around. The team is meant to support the main char and not be the entire game. They aren't supposed to be perfectly flawless, it would eliminate a good challenge. What would that be? Reviving your AI teammate in the middle of open fire, very difficult on higher difficulties. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

^^ This is one of UBI's new target customers xoops was talking about. Notice how he doesn't have a single clue.

Did you even bother to read the OP? Do you know what Rainbow Six is? No, you obviously don't.

Rainbow Six is an elite counter terrorist unit. You'd expect a character that's supposedly an elite soldier NOT to do stupid things like stand out in the open when shooting or throwing a grenade. We aren't talking about AI here. We're talking about a player's character, who's supposed to be an extremely well trained soldier, leaving their cover to throw a grenade. Hell an elite CT soldier controlled by AI shouldn't do it either. The characters in this game are constantly putting themselves in ridiculously dangerous positions and using ******ed techniques like the back to the wall cover system which make the notion of them being highly trained elite CT operatives completely unbelievable even for a second.

From the very first time you see your character press his back up against a wall and swinging out into a doorway you know that he can't possibly be an elite soldier, and the game's concept breaks. No soldier in their right mind would do something like that. Especially not an elite one!

I find it funny that even when they're joking around soldiers don't put their backs against the wall Vegas syle. Military room cleaning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R89vhiua35A

It's a joke, and not one of them does any of the stupid things that happen in the game. I can't imagine them doing it when they're serious.

Vegas, a game about elite counter terrorist soldiers? I think not!

Vegas is a joke, seriously.

[AntiPersonnel]

omg that room sweeper video is 100% pure win

[pinetreeforrest]

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[GSG_9_Rage]

"Next-Gen" is actually this generation.

[GSG_9_Rage]

I posted this in another thread:






See how they don't have their backs to the wall? See how they are facing the door?

Unlike this:



Look! Logan's gun is pointed to the ceiling! Not in any form of ready position! That can be very deadly in a situation like that.



Now look at the photo above. That would be fine if Logan was going to be firing ahead of him or towards his left (his weapon should be shouldered). But he is in no position to fire down that alleyway there.

Look at this man, below. Does he have his back to that pillar to take "cover?" No. He is facing the direction in which he is ready to fire in.



It is just like throwing a football. you need to be facing the direction in which you are going to fire. And when you are in a hostile area, you have to be ready for anything to happen. You don't have the time to turn around, especially against a wall like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP-s_b9r0tg&NR=1

A very good video about room clearing.

This one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82U9y...eature=related

[DexLuther]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GSG_9_Rage:
I posted this in another thread:






See how they don't have their backs to the wall? See how they are facing the door?

Unlike this:



Look! Logan's gun is pointed to the ceiling! Not in any form of ready position! That can be very deadly in a situation like that.



Now look at the photo above. That would be fine if Logan was going to be firing ahead of him or towards his left (his weapon should be shouldered). But he is in no position to fire down that alleyway there.

Look at this man, below. Does he have his back to that pillar to take "cover?" No. He is facing the direction in which he is ready to fire in.



It is just like throwing a football. you need to be facing the direction in which you are going to fire. And when you are in a hostile area, you have to be ready for anything to happen. You don't have the time to turn around, especially against a wall like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP-s_b9r0tg&NR=1

A very good video about room clearing.

This one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82U9y...eature=related </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My Room cleaning vid trumps yours :P

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw this in Halo Six: Vegas 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ8jFbIjtTU