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[K_Freddie]

'Where ever you go, that's where you are'

Really!!, maybe it's not where you think you are ?
If we travel faster than light, we'd reach infinitism mass/energy (and beyond) according to the great E, but we know that even He is not correct (or do we ?)

There is a simple basic mechanism that is faster than light, which 'shows' no mass/energy anomalies - what is it ?

[K_Freddie]

'Where ever you go, that's where you are'

Really!!, maybe it's not where you think you are ?
If we travel faster than light, we'd reach infinitism mass/energy (and beyond) according to the great E, but we know that even He is not correct (or do we ?)

There is a simple basic mechanism that is faster than light, which 'shows' no mass/energy anomalies - what is it ?

[stalkervision]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:
'Where ever you go, that's where you are'

Really!!, maybe it's not where you think you are ?
If we travel faster than light, we'd reach infinitism mass/energy (and beyond) according to the great E, but we know that even He is not correct (or do we ?)




There is a simple basic mechanism that is faster than light - what is it ?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>


bending gravity and space and making distances shorter.


That's how ufo do it btw.."gravity amplifiers.."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...yJBU&feature=related


simple. for them yes..

[K_Freddie]

His use of termonology in some contexts is incorrect.
If he was not briefed, he'd use other engineering terms ??

Sorry, Hoax!!

[thefruitbat]

So what is faster than light....


the speed your tax return comes around.

[stalkervision]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:
His use of termonology in some contexts is incorrect.
If he was not briefed, he'd use other engineering terms ??

Sorry, Hoax!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

sorry but no, Lazar worked at los Alamo's and has the pay stubs and other solid evidence to prove it.

The government "tried" to erase evidence he worked there and would have erased him and said as much to him once, permanently if he didn't come out with it publicly.

what "terminology" are you referring to ?

He has degrees in Physics btw.

"There is a simple basic mechanism that is faster than light, which 'shows' no mass/energy anomalies - what is it ? "
Mean Happy

if you think this is possible I wouldn't critisize anyone. especially a physic researcher.

[TS_Sancho]

Bob Lazar is a proven fraud and liar.

His scientific credentials don't exist, the only shred of academic evidence is a 6 month stint at pierce jr. college in southern Ca.

He was convicted of felony pandering in Nevada at roughly the same time he claims to have been working at area 51.

Bob Lazar

Element 115 aka Ununpentium is credited as first being observed in 2003, is very unstable and has a half life measured in milliseconds.

To date a total of 30 atoms have been synthesized.


Ununpentium

[AndyJWest]

I'm in a bit of a cynical mood, so I'll suggest that maybe 'so what' is faster than light. Apathy seems to move at an inordinate speed sometimes, particularly if there aren't pictures on TV to show us what we should care about...

Sorry, dark mood...

[stalkervision]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TS_Sancho:
Bob Lazar is a proven fraud and liar.

His scientific credentials don't exist, the only shred of academic evidence is a 6 month stint at pierce jr. college in southern Ca.

He was convicted of felony pandering in Nevada at roughly the same time he claims to have been working at area 51.

Bob Lazar

Element 115 aka Ununpentium is credited as first being observed in 2003, is very unstable and has a half life measured in milliseconds.

To date a total of 30 atoms have been synthesized.


Ununpentium </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

actually it has been proven that his credentials are quite real but the Pandering charge is a funny story having to do with his connection with legal brothels and the business software he developed for them.

believe lazar if you like or don't like. No problem for me. He comes off as quite credible and has the records he worked at the facility he said he did and what he did.

"Ununpentium (pronounced /u?nu?n?p?nti?m/ ( listen)[1] oon-oon-PEN-tee-?m) is the temporary name of a synthetic superheavy element in the periodic table that has the temporary symbol Uup and has the atomic number 115.

<span class="ev_code_RED">It is placed as the heaviest member of group 15 (VA) although a sufficiently stable isotope is not known at this time that would allow chemical experiments to confirm its position. It was first observed in 2003 and only about 30 atoms of ununpentium have been synthesized to date, with just 4 direct decays of the parent element having been detected</span> <span class="ev_code_YELLOW"> It is placed as the heaviest member of group 15 (VA) although a sufficiently stable isotope is not known at this time that would allow chemical experiments to confirm its position.</span> It is placed as the heaviest member of group 15 (VA) although a sufficiently stable isotope is not known at this time that would allow chemical experiments to confirm its position. It was first observed in 2003 and only about 30 atoms of ununpentium have been synthesized to date, with just 4 direct decays of the parent element having been detected. Four consecutive isotopes are currently known, 287-290Uup, with 289Uup having the longest measured half-life of ~220 ms, although the isotope 290Uup may well have an even longer half-life (only a single decay has been measured leading to poor accuracy)."

Lazar explains this element in his videos and the few bits that have been made on earth btw..

Much to little to do anything with btw as he explained.


Some of your "source material and a review of it Sanchez"...




Some of yAlien Contact, by Timothy Good
Written: Apr 10 '09

Product Rating: Product Rating: 3.0
Pros: It's got UFOs.

Cons: It's got nothing new about UFOs.

The Bottom Line: In the realm of UFO books, I've read worse.

cdm72's Full Review: Timothy Good - Alien Contact: Top-Secret UFO Files...
I’ve read a ton of UFO-related books, and every time I always hope for something that is, in the end, never delivered. Why should Timothy Good’s ALIEN CONTACT be any different? The subtitle, “Top-Secret UFO Files Revealed” doesn’t help, considering the only top-secret files revealed are a couple of documents in the back of the book that don’t really tell us anything, prove even less, and, let’s face it, they’re not all that easy to read in the first place. I had such high hopes for this book, too.

Timothy Good is the author of a previous book on the subject, ABOVE TOP SECRET, which I could have sworn I own, but maybe I don’t. Published in 1991 in the UK as ALIEN LIAISON: The Ultimate Secret, it was re-released in the US in 1993. At 245 pages, the first third of the book reads like so much random junk with no point other than to catch up anyone who came late to the party with information on cow mutilations and early reports of Air Force jets following UFOs, but there’s no meat here. Anyone can relate interesting anecdotes about a phenomena, but unless there’s some glue to bring all of this together, you’re going to lose your readers real quick.

The bulk of ALIEN CONTACT deals with someone you may have seen on TV a time or two on any of a dozen UFO-related specials, Bob Lazar. Lazar claims to have worked, for a short time, at Area 51, also known as Dreamland, studying a downed UFO. Lazar has offered details on the ship’s layout, construction, and method of propulsion, but was never told where it came from, how it was acquired, or what else may have been lying around. The entire compound, he says, was built into a mountain, so it could very possibly have been full of UFOs (he’s convinced there were at least 8 or 9 in total, but he only saw 3, and only worked with the one). He was never shown around the facility, and only allowed access to his particular work area and the corridor leading to it. When he finally decided to go public with his information, the troubles began.

Eventually, Lazar admitted he couldn’t be 100% sure what he saw was what he saw. He did work on a UFO, he did watch it take off, but there’s also the possibility, he admits, that everything he was shown was with the intention of purposely spreading disinformation to the public. They may have chosen him, Lazar admits, because something in his background told them he’d be likely to go public with what he knew. Maybe, he says, his time in Dreamland was all a ruse.

Well. That kinda takes the wind out of your sails, don’t it? I mean Good lays down some wild claims in ALIEN CONTACT, such as aliens being in control of all of Area 51, with the support of our government, but if it comes down to such a simple thing as the government’s allowing what information the public has about UFOs and their occupants to be spread with the intention of misleading us, then do we just dismiss everything we hear? Of course not, because Good also has another theory. Perhaps the government is allowing what information the public has about UFOs and their occupants to be spread with the intention of slowly acclimating us to this information so that if and when those beings do reveal themselves to the rest of the world, we’ll be better prepared.

It’s good that Good is able to allow for both possibilities in his book, but he never actually takes a solid stance on which he thinks is the truth. I get the feeling he does believe the beings may be in control of Area 51, but I’m not sure he believes Lazar’s story was fabricated by the government. In fact, the impression I got most was that Good wants so badly to believe in these creatures, he’ll accept any story as long as the end result is that, yes Virginia, there is an alien presence on this planet.

ALIEN CONTACT is a little too scatterbrained for me. Aside from the Lazar story, which admittedly takes up a good chunk of the book, I got the feeling Good wasn’t really trying to say anything, he just wanted to talk in order to hear his own voice. Hell, even when going over the Lazar information, I still didn’t feel like he had a point to make. As for any sort of proof, he offers none. Mostly it’s a lot of he said/he said from the different parties. “Well, the government told me this,” and “No, we never told you any such thing.”

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">From what I can gather in the narrative, Good’s never actually encountered anything first-hand, he gets his information second-, and in a LOT of cases, third-hand from other people. I can’t even say he seriously investigates any of the things in his book. He has interviewed several people and includes parts of those discussion, but a lot of it is stuff like “When I was visiting him at his home, he told me over dinner,” or “I was at his ranch for the weekend when he told me”. Those don’t sound like interviews to me, but like possibly tipsy get-togethers in which someone may have just had a little too much to drink and wanted to make Good think they were a big-shot. Hell, who hasn’t built something up to their friends in the re-telling?</span> From what I can gather in the narrative, Good’s never actually encountered anything first-hand, he gets his information second-, and in a LOT of cases, third-hand from other people. I can’t even say he seriously investigates any of the things in his book. He has interviewed several people and includes parts of those discussion, but a lot of it is stuff like “When I was visiting him at his home, he told me over dinner,” or “I was at his ranch for the weekend when he told me”. Those don’t sound like interviews to me, but like possibly tipsy get-togethers in which someone may have just had a little too much to drink and wanted to make Good think they were a big-shot. Hell, who hasn’t built something up to their friends in the re-telling?

I’m disappointed in ALIEN CONTACT, mostly because I thought it might, finally, be able to offer something real, something different than all the other UFO books. I hoped it would be able to shed some new light on a subject that’s always been of great interest to me. Alas, it was not to be and ALIEN CONTACT is just another in a very long line of books that could have been titled SAME SPECULATION WITH NO SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP THAT YOU’VE ALREADY READ A FEW TIMES BEFORE, Vol. 7.


Recommended:
No


My father and I both witnessed a ufo at very close distance and we are both aviation Buffs from day one and have seen everything in the sky.


when you can say the same thing talk to me again..


newer stuff on Lazar..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaGS-e98KNQ&NR=1

[Pirschjaeger]

My father and I both witnessed a ufo at very close distance and we are both aviation Buffs from day one and have seen everything in the sky.

A ufo as in something from an alien planet or just something you couldn't identify?