b2spirita
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7481172.stm
Its taken its sweet time, but at least we are now back in the top league. (Runs for cover)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7481172.stm
Its taken its sweet time, but at least we are now back in the top league. (Runs for cover)
LOL its armed with ASRAAMS though (turds, the Germans thought so little of them they went and developed their own missile and the Americans modified the Aim-9)Originally posted by b2spirita:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7481172.stm
Its taken its sweet time, but at least we are now back in the top league. (Runs for cover)
Baring that, blah. Not to impressed with the Tiffie myself, I'm waiting to see what the Russians and Chinese come up with next. If everything goes to plan it looks like even the Brazilians may get a more advanced fighter than the Eurofighter for a cheaper price.
"We are only seeking Man. We have no need of other worlds. We need mirrors. We don't know what to do with other worlds. A single world, our own, suffices us; but we can't accept it for what it is. We are seaching for an ideal image of our own world" - Solaris
Ah, someone planning for eventualities! Good to see someone actually doing their job.Independent defence expert Paul Beaver:
"And anyone who believes that we will only ever fight insurgents is wrong - there is always the risk that one day we will face a sophisticated enemy again."
LMFAO, the politicians got duped
"Assessments have been carried out to determine the flight limitations necessitated by the thermal effects of high-speed carriage of weapons on the Eurofighter Typhoon. The merits of an internal weapons bay were assessed during the early design phase of the aircraft. However, this arrangement was rejected because the aircraft was designed primarily for the air superiority role where the rapid availability of weapons mounted on external pylons offers greater operational advantage."
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/2003.../eurofighter-typhoon
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LOLOL
Eurofighter Typhoon Fighter Jet To Undergo Upgrades Worth ?830 million
The Eurofighter Typhoon combat jet is to receive a major update, gaining the ability to effectively attack ground targets ? a thing it currently cannot do. The UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) announced today that the governments of Britain, Spain, Italy and Germany have agreed to pay the Eurofighter consortium ?830m to sort out the controversial wonder-plane.
?The MoD has taken another significant step to equip the Royal Air Force with the capability it requires by signing a contract to transform RAF Typhoon fighters,? says the MoD, tacitly admitting that the Eurofighter is not what the RAF requires.
Current Eurofighters ? when they finally go operational later this year ? will be pure air-superiority platforms, good only for fighting other aircraft using advanced missiles such as AMRAAM. They have taken 22 years to develop. The MoD anticipates a final UK procurement cost of ?20bn based on 232 planes for the RAF, which would work out at ?86m per airframe.
However, the RAF only plans to establish seven Typhoon squadrons, which would mean an operational fleet of 140-odd. The remaining 90-plus aircraft would have to be mothballed if 232 were bought. This has already happened in the past with other RAF planes ordered in excessive numbers, such as the Tornado F3 and the Nimrod MR1.
If all 232 are delivered, the cost to the taxpayer per Typhoon in RAF service would be an eye-watering ?140m. Understandably, there is speculation that the partner nations may decide to cancel the third tranche of orders. That would result in the UK getting 144 jets and save perhaps ?2bn from the total British bill, leaving individual Typhoons price-tagged at ?125m each.
No matter how you look at it, the Eurofighter is a very expensive piece of kit and will need to work hard to justify its cost. But air-to-air combat doesn?t crop up all that often nowadays. Military jets spend most of their operational time blowing up targets on the ground. With British troops in Afghanistan calling for airstrikes on an almost daily basis, the RAF will be keen to make sure that its latest toy can get in on the action. The UK?s share of the upgrade bill is reportedly ?325m, which puts the cost of fixing up each plane at a mere million or two quid, a snip compared to the cost of buying it in the first place.
This enhancement will certainly make the Eurofighter more useful, but it?s questionable if anything can make it cost-effective. As a comparison, the UK plans to buy US-made F-35 Lightning II strike planes as well. These planes aren?t as manoeuvrable as a Eurofighter, but they can carry AMRAAMs perfectly well. In many ways they?re much better than the European super-jet: they?ll have stealth, for instance, and probably vertical-landing jump-jet capability too.
The price of a Lightning II? Currently estimated below ?55m per plane, less than half the likely price of a Eurofighter. Against competition like this, it'll take more than an upgrade to make the Typhoon look like a good deal.
http://www.militaryglobal.com/reports-3978
Oh jeeze this is to funny, its going to be almost 3 times the cost of a JSF.
"We are only seeking Man. We have no need of other worlds. We need mirrors. We don't know what to do with other worlds. A single world, our own, suffices us; but we can't accept it for what it is. We are seaching for an ideal image of our own world" - Solaris
Man if I were a taxpayer in an EU country I'd be bloody angry though I can see the humourous side of it.
Oh jeeze this is to funny, its going to be almost 3 times the cost of a JSF.
What's actually funny is Aimail posting that Typhoons can't perform ground attack in a thread about Typhoons being declared operational in that role.
Here's the opening line from the BBC article.
"The RAF has declared the Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft capable of carrying out ground attacks, as well as its original air defence role."
Of course, with the dollar tanking, the JSF is going to be value for money, even more so if you're in the Euro-zone.
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If you notice the article i Posted is older, and it includes the details of the ground attack upgrade which has now been carried out.Originally posted by Ploughman:
What's actually funny is Aimail posting that Typhoons can't perform ground attack in a thread about Typhoons being declared operational in that role.
Here's the opening line from the BBC article.
"The RAF has declared the Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft capable of carrying out ground attacks, as well as its original air defence role."
Of course, with the dollar tanking, the JSF is going to be value for money, even more so if you're in the Euro-zone.
"We are only seeking Man. We have no need of other worlds. We need mirrors. We don't know what to do with other worlds. A single world, our own, suffices us; but we can't accept it for what it is. We are seaching for an ideal image of our own world" - Solaris
That article was from March this year, although it is not dated at the site you linked it to. It does not refer to the enhancements the current RAF Typhoons have declared operational which are based on the Rafael/Ultra Electronics Litening III laser designator and the Enhanced Paveway II/III LGB.
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"With British troops in Afghanistan calling for airstrikes on an almost daily basis, the RAF will be keen to make sure that its latest toy can get in on the action. The UK?s share of the upgrade bill is reportedly ?325m, which puts the cost of fixing up each plane at a mere million or two quid, a snip compared to the cost of buying it in the first place."
"We are only seeking Man. We have no need of other worlds. We need mirrors. We don't know what to do with other worlds. A single world, our own, suffices us; but we can't accept it for what it is. We are seaching for an ideal image of our own world" - Solaris
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