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[Uzor]

So, there's several threads about this, but I thought it better to just create a single thread so we can discuss back and forth instead of having it spread out all over the forum.

The below has some spoilers in it, and since I don't know how to spoiler tag, I'll stick to this:

Since Dungeon and Academy are pretty much guaranteed factions as per the storyline (Sandor runs in to his mother Elisabeth who's a Wizard, and in the Tears bonus mission we see a Dungeon hero named Raelag talking to the faceless).

What other factions do you believe will be introduced? There's also the possibility of Cate's faction (whatever that is?) being playable; but I don't think she's in an actual faction, is she? I believe these three characters are the only ones involved in the storyline with other factions - but what other factions do you believe may be introduced? What units and abilities will be introduced with them?

[SlumbrousShip5]

Sylvan Will be too since Raelag was talking about them and in the inferno campaign they mentioned moonblade elves in an artifact description so I'm guessing that may be a core unit?

[Yargovish]

I'd love having a hero that turns into a badass dragon as a faction ability, but I don't think that's happening. Plus the elves and dwarves need some love, I miss my flaming godzillas.

[Uzor]

Well, right now we have, I believe:

Asha (Order) - Necromancer
Urgash (Chaos) - Inferno
Ylath (Air) - ???
Sylanna (Earth) - <span class="ev_code_RED">Sylvan</span>
Arkath (Fire) - <span class="ev_code_RED">Fortress</span>
Shalassa (Water) - Sanctuary
Elrath (Light)- Haven
Malassa (Darkness) - <span class="ev_code_RED">Dungeon</span>
Sar Elam (Neutral) - <span class="ev_code_RED">Academy</span>

And the Stronghold who don't worship any dragon. The only remaining dragon is the Air dragon (assuming the Sylvan, Fortress (Dwarves, Dungeon and Academy will be returning). And since two of those are pretty much confirmed, the last one confuses me. It's possible that they're going by the Bastion's devotion to Ylath; thus attributing them to the Dragon of Air. But the Orcs don't worship a dragon, so that seem kind of strange. It made sense back when Bastion were mostly humans, but since all of them are created by the Wizards now, and thus are pretty much "Atheists" as they choose to live free, it doesn't make sense or this game. Perhaps a new faction like Sanctuary?

[Mist_Weaver]

The Wizards of the Silver Cities are humans, who originally served Ylath. Worship of Ylath waned after the rise of Elrath's worshippers, as those who cared about following Ylath gradually converted or were run out of the Falcon Empire. The Wizards don't really care about the Dragon Gods one way or another, but theoretically they could still represent Ylath.

I suspect that there will be at least two expansions; one for the hinted-at war between the rising Necromancers and the Wizards, and one for the War of Bitter Ashes between the Dark Elves and Sylanna's faithful.

Arkath's servants may get passed over in HoMM VI, as they are pretty much isolated in that time period as far as the major conflicts go. The naga were given a miss on HoMM V for similar reasons.

[Uzor]

Yeah; I don't think all of the factions will be represented either. Fortress seem likely to get a pass, and possibly Ylath.

As for Wizards; they're Academy, and are the followers of Sar Elam; the wizard who became a Dragon.

[Yargovish]

Originally posted by demonsteel87:
The only remaining dragon is the Air dragon (assuming the Sylvan, Fortress (Dwarves, Dungeon and Academy will be returning). And since two of those are pretty much confirmed, the last one confuses me. It's possible that they're going by the Bastion's devotion to Ylath; thus attributing them to the Dragon of Air. But the Orcs don't worship a dragon, so that seem kind of strange. It made sense back when Bastion were mostly humans, but since all of them are created by the Wizards now, and thus are pretty much "Atheists" as they choose to live free, it doesn't make sense or this game. Perhaps a new faction like Sanctuary?

Well Ylath doesn't want to be worshiped and constantly moves around, so maybe his current status of minor deity among multiple cultures (barbarians, wizards and free cities) is what suits him best, rather than having a faction fully dedicated to him.

[Targ_Orin]

Well Cate's faction is Dungeon (her Dragon is Malassa); the single player Dungeon story line might just be her back story if there is one.

Well here's an idea that's low on the priory list:
Since there's two human faction and likely ending up with two elf factions; how about a second orc faction. Tribes of the East have the steppe orcs; obviously VI has the island orcs; so there's the southern desert orc left. It could be an opportunity to bring back orcish ax throwers, wolf riders (or Jackal riders or some sort of canine like desert cryptid riders), and Behemoths (say they're some sort of fusion of animal and primal elemental that inhabit or make up a mountain that is in the middle of the desert that is sacred to this groups of orcs). Also throw in some lightning shooting unit based on the Mongolian Death Worm to hit the familiar sand worm... archetype.

[Uzor]

Actually; Cate is a Dragon Knight, I believe. Isn't she?

Then again, they worship Asha. But I'm sure they said in the storyline that she's a dragon knight.

[Targ_Orin]

Yes she's a Dragon Knight and she stated her 'internal Dragon' is Malassa.