Im done with Rainbow Six (R6 Veteran) | Forums

[NicePCUser]

First of all, you guys should read a book, it's a book published in 1998. It's about a group of men who took down terrorist with careful planning, advanced technology and team organization. The name of this book was called "Rainbow Six".

The video game based after the book was EXACTLY what Rainbow Six was intended to be. It was also released in 1998.

Today, Rainbow Six is a disaster. It's NOTHING like Rainbow Six and it should be renamed... Today's Rainbow Six game should be called "Army of Three" Because thats exactly what you're doing. You're 3 guys running around killing Terrorist in Las Vegas. NOTHING like what Rainbow Six is about, NOTHING like what would happen in the real world.

Rainbow Six was great up to Raven Shield. Now UBISoft just uses the name "Rainbow Six" for this game because "Rainbow Six" had a STRONG market once. Back when it was based of a book, and not an "Army of Three".

By the way, If you didn't like the original Rainbow Six, then you're NOT going like real world hostage situations, because working as a team and careful planning is what made the first "Rainbow Six" and its predecessors a masterpiece in FPS gaming!

[DreamMarine]

[GSG_9_Rage]

He has a point.

[JReactor]

ok thanks for the rant

[oorlogshond]

And nor will the casual gamer buy this game.

Too much competition. Right now the only threat is COD4 and it's a big one too. What if IW comes with a free map pack right before Vegas 2?

PLUS there will be two other mayor titles who will appeal to the same type of gamer: Army of Two(release date march 4) and Battlefield Bad Company(released somewhere in Q1 2008).

And these games are actually offering something completely new and are not some glorified expansion pack.

But whatever, who knows.

One thing is for sure though, i will definitely not buy Vegas 2. After watching the teaser, trailer and interviews it's pretty clear there is nothing this game has to offer to the hardcore player. I think i'll stick with COD4 untill we have Armed Assualt 2, Operation Flashpoint 2, Rogue Warrior and last but not least Ground Branch. All are going to be released for the console(and PC) and all are hardcore combat sims. Ground Branch is probably the most interesting title to old school RB6 fans since people who are working on this title also worked on the older RB6 titles.

[RawKryptonite]

I'm looking forward to ArmA2, OpFlashpoint and Rogue Warrior too. Not sure they'll be out any time soon, but maybe by the Fall.
I'm not convinced GB will come to console. As much as they say they'd "like to" or plan to, I don't see that commitment or interest in doing so. Everything they discuss is pretty much just PC oriented, so I think the console players that DID go there have lost interest out of neglect.

[oorlogshond]

Originally posted by RawKryptonite:
I'm looking forward to ArmA2, OpFlashpoint and Rogue Warrior too. Not sure they'll be out any time soon, but maybe by the Fall.
I'm not convinced GB will come to console. As much as they say they'd "like to" or plan to, I don't see that commitment or interest in doing so. Everything they discuss is pretty much just PC oriented, so I think the console players that DID go there have lost interest out of neglect.

Hmm i dunno but is see plenty of people there who both play on PC and console.

This from the FAQ on their site

3. What platforms will it be for?
The primary platform for the title is PC, but an XBOX 360 version is also planned (360 version is publisher dependant).

To me this sounds that the release for the 360 is very likely. The only obstacle here is finding a publisher.

We will see, i have good hopes

[Tacamo]

It would be quite time consuming to properly produce the game for multiple platforms. In order to make the Deus Ex franchise more accessible to the console market they ended up significantly dumbed down the game on the PC side. Sad that a classic game was followed by such trash.

[oorlogshond]

Originally posted by Tacamo:
It would be quite time consuming to properly produce the game for multiple platforms. In order to make the Deus Ex franchise more accessible to the console market they ended up significantly dumbed down the game on the PC side. Sad that a classic game was followed by such trash.

It worked rather well with Ghost Recon 1 and it's expansion packs.

Apart from maybe some GFX there really is no need for dumbing down anything(gameplay wise). Dumbing down is done because publishers want big sales. This problem is platform independent. There are as many arcade games on PC as there are for console.

Look at Gran Turismo, it's not even available for the PC yet it is THE most hardcore racing game ever. And extremely succesfull.

[Tacamo]

The case I listed was probably nothing more than laziness and as you stated to make sales. Games shouldn't be dumbed down, but definitely should be tailored to their platform be it handheld, console or PC. Good ports have been done, but it seems as if a no-frills "meet the marketing team deadline" schedule vs. releasing a complete product seems to be popular with most publishers. Unfortunately adding mechanics, control schemes that work on the platform and cleaning up sloppy code took a back seat to Pretty trailers, high rez preview pics and overly aggressive production cycles.