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[Greg_Gauntlet]

Hello everybody. I have had this game for well over a year now, but I am new to this forum and Far Cry fora in general. I have read a lot here in the last days though because I reinstalled Farcry with the 1.32 patch and newer graphics card drivers and I wanted to read about other peoples experience with the game. Now I can play with all settings at their highest, even though not with a constistantly good frame rate, but I just love the looks of the game when everything is at highest. FarCry is still the best computer game I ever played. I have some remarks and some questions. I am sorry if I am bringing up issues that have already been answered or resolved. I don't know where to start, so I will just start with no specific order in mind. First of all I don't understand in any way how so many people are complaining about the Trigens. I think I would not like this game half as much as I do if there were none in the game.There is nothing like the adrenaline rush and the heart beats you get when you are somewhere in the dark without CryVision or Cryvision batteries empty and you hear them growl somewhere next to you, knowing that you will lose all the time you played since the last checkpoint if they get you now. Now, speaking of Trigens, am I correct when I count 6 different species of Trigens that you can fight in the game with at least one more that you don't get to fight ever? I count two "**** mutant monkeys, let's take 'em out", the ones with a more human or ape like face and the ones with a very elongated face; two "jumper" Trigens species, one of them with a sort of cloaking device, two fat boy kinds, the ones with and the ones without rocket launcher. And then there's the species that you only see in a lab (Bunker I believe) and in the cutscene that leads to the Dam level. What I never understood is why the Trigens rebel...since Doyle later on says the Trigens were "fiercely loyal to Krieger" and also at one point that Krieger "controls them with implants". Okay, some Trigens are supposed to be "untrained", but then where are all the "trained ones"? The only time I saw Trigens that might be "trained ones" is in the archives level at the dock area, where you see a lot of Elite Mercs and two Fat Boys, that don't seem to be fighting each other, but those Fat Boys don't seem to want to attack me either. - Does everybody know that there are two rocket launchers in the River level that are "out of reach" but can be obtained with some climbing and hiking? No need to disable any kill lines either. But what about the rocket launcher Merc in the Pier level in the Merc camp? He is up there on the metal tower and you can shoot him or blow him up along with the armory, but I am never able to find his rocket launcher. Can it be found/picked up at all? I think there are other Mercs/Trigens that don't seem to drop their weapons as they should. Another example is at least one of the Jumper Trigens in the Dam Level when you are at the helicopter. I think there are even two that shoot at you, while you are in the helicopter using the mini gun, but when you get to where they fell, no weapon of them can be found. Is that a bug, and if yes, how come it has not been fixed in any of the patches, since it seems to be such an obvious, even though not extremely important, bug. I think that's all for now. I am looking forward to read some replies and might have some more questions/comments in the future.

[slayersofadmin]

Interesting I never thought to count how many different monsters there were.{trigens}
But I agree the game would be pretty bland without the trigens,the mercs are too easy to kill.
also good question about the trigens rebeling,would have been better to say that krieger sicked the trigens on jack carver.and the mercs just got in the way.
as for the patches, I think they were mostly intended for the multiplayer portion of game.

[Greg_Gauntlet]

Thank you for the reply slayer.
Sorry to all for the lack of paragraphcs in my post above, I first typed it into editor and later forgot to add paragraphs. I checked on the Fat Boys in the Archives level and I was mistaken, the Mercs do shoot at them, but it's still odd, since I clearly remember taking at least one of the Fat Boys out myself in earlier games, and that long after the Mercs and the Fat Boys were activated. Maybe it's that they ignore the Fat Boys as soon as they see me/Carver.

[CptLong]

The tower shooter is spawned, as is many mercs in the game. He dies in the explosion. There will be many instances of mercs and mutants not fighting, as the fights are scripted and triggered by your movements. When players like us circumvent the intented path, these triggers may not fire. There are many many climbs, like the one you described in RIVER. Factory, for example, can be totally circumvented with no shots fired. You can assault the FORT with a smoke grenade and go right into PIER. Lots to do, after playing the game "straight up". There are many types of mercs too. Several classes, uniforms, weapons carried, jobs, etc. Open the editor and look at the "entities" and you'll find the different classes of mercs, along with the different mutants.
Lots to do and see.

[Greg_Gauntlet]

Thanks Cpt. I think I will be busy with FarCry for a long time to come, I realized it was a great game, but uninstalled it after winning on realistic a year ago. Now I am learning it is even better than I had thought.

[Greg_Gauntlet]

Got another question. I read somewhere about a pig coming to repark your buggy in certain instances. I wasn't sure this wasn't just a hoax but tried it anyway. I parked the buggy on the second level of the stairs in the Fort level (the stairs with all the oil drums, explosives above). I watched for maybe a minute or so and nothing happened. So I thought "Yea, very funny, thanks for wasting my time." and went somewhere else on the island. But after I finished my business there I thought I would go back one more time to check and indeed the buggy was not where I left it anymore. It was on the stairs, stuck on a rock, and a pig at the bottom of the stairs. Made me smile, but I wanted to observe the pig driving so I reparked it again up there an watched for maybe 5 minutes but nothing happened, the pig just wandered around aimlessly. It just got too boring so I went on. Question: Does the pig do this only once, so if I want to observe it, I have to restart from last save point? Can it be observed at all or does it only do it when no-one is watching?

[DocSEAL]

I too was in disbelief of this until I witness it myself. It was in the same location you describe on Fort level. It does take quite some time for it to happen. I'm not sure what triggers it, but I made sure I lead the pig near the buggy initally (he is to the right of the stairs to start.) It didn't happen immediately, but about 10 mins later he jumped in right before my eyes. I was only about 20 feet away.

Anyway, just another comical thing left in by the boys at Crytek...

[Greg_Gauntlet]

Has anyone ever made it through the whole game without ever dying? The furthest I ever made it was "Research" on "realistic". I died there to the last Merc alive in the cave because of low FPS and beeing overconfident for a minute...If I had not died there I think I could have probably made it to the Bunker and gotten through it. Where I think it gets really difficult is "Steam". Just the beginning though until you get CryVision. What I usually do is this: I snipe the two Mercs on the Zodiac that appear after a minute or so, and use the Zodiac to take care of the "mutant monkeys". Then I drive the Zodiac to the Merc Camp, but sometimes I die there because of the RL Merc. Maybe someone knows a better way. The first REAL difficult spot however I think is in the level following Steam, when those 10 Mercs or so are coming down this round walkway with the huge "ventilator" in the middle. I die a lot there but the best method I found was to stay back and shoot rockets whenever the door to that mentioned "ventilator room" opens.

How far have you made it?

[pakmanis]

I like the Steam level. I do the same, get the boat but I swim over that way behind the large rock wait for them to past and take them out on their way back. Then go to the river mouth and take care of those guys. Gather the ammo and back around to the large island across from the camp dock. Take out the RL with the sniper (and maybe a few others). Bombard the camp with the boat rockets. Then up to where the RL was and take out the minigun merc.

From there sometimes I run thru the camp and forward or I'll take the boat around up the river and takeout the RL merc by the hut and go that way. Depends on how I feel at the moment.

After those areas are clear it's a choice between; jeep up over the waterfall to the birds I view of the steam plant or jeep up the road through the merc road block. I generally take the road because I like that section .

So it's through the roadblock to the little hill where you can see the hut. Out with the RL and take out the jeep (and all or most of the mercs in the huts. Then tag as fast as possible all the mercs I can with the binocs and take care of the small squad of mercs that on the road. Then wait for the alarmed mercs to come investigate to take them out. Also as many as possible at the plant (M4 is good for that no need to waste sniper rounds).

Then on to the huts to pick ammo, armor and health. Scan the plant from there also and clean up as needed then off with the jeep to the chopper pad and take out the incoming chopper(sometimes it comes when I'm almost in front of the plant but most of the time it comes when I'm at the pad). Scan the plant again (there always a worker hiding someplace) and off the the doors to get the plans and that's it.

Fun stuff, but time consuming

[Greg_Gauntlet]

Thanks for the reply pakmanis. Now that's a helpful tactic...to go to the island to take out the RL Merc. I was aware there were islands out there, but somehow I never tried to go there for a good sniping spot. You can actually take the RL Merc out while you are crouched on the Zodiac, which is what I used to do most of the time, but it's difficult to aim and I would usually waste 5-10 rounds until I got him and sometimes I was not careful enough and he managed to hit me with a rocket.

The first time I ever played Steam I did not even know about the Zodiac and I just entered the jungle. That was probably the most exciting situation I ever experienced in a game. My gamma and brightness were too low back then and I could hardly see anything, just hear the Trigens growl and coming closer and closer...and then when you go that way you will meet a lot of Mercs in the jungle and you won't see them clearly until you are almost stepping on their toes.