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[XyZspineZyX]

Alright, just to let you guys know right off the bat, this is not a thread to make fun of how the Elo system scores, just how it works. I had my ELO up to 1451 about 2 weeks ago and I have 1700+ kills and 100 deaths. I never play by myself to rack up the kills, nor do I play with people that have very low ratings in order to make it easier for me to dominate the tangos.

I feel as though that should be getting me points, which it should have, but it wasn't, so I really started to pay attention and check the stats between all games, and I found out something pretty disturbing...........I would complete a mission on Elite, get like 30 ELO points, then I would change the map, and BAM, my points would disappear. Then, to top it all off, last night, I played 4 missions, completed them all, got no points at all, then when I quit and checked the stats page, I was at 1000 !!!!!!!!!!!!! I went from 83rd to 14000th for no reason. That is so lame.

Is this happening to anyone else ??

[XyZspineZyX]

Alright, just to let you guys know right off the bat, this is not a thread to make fun of how the Elo system scores, just how it works. I had my ELO up to 1451 about 2 weeks ago and I have 1700+ kills and 100 deaths. I never play by myself to rack up the kills, nor do I play with people that have very low ratings in order to make it easier for me to dominate the tangos.

I feel as though that should be getting me points, which it should have, but it wasn't, so I really started to pay attention and check the stats between all games, and I found out something pretty disturbing...........I would complete a mission on Elite, get like 30 ELO points, then I would change the map, and BAM, my points would disappear. Then, to top it all off, last night, I played 4 missions, completed them all, got no points at all, then when I quit and checked the stats page, I was at 1000 !!!!!!!!!!!!! I went from 83rd to 14000th for no reason. That is so lame.

Is this happening to anyone else ??

[XyZspineZyX]

at damn last someone else has had this problem. I was ranked 1st in co-op mode with over 10,000 kills and 200 deaths (yes I know its co-op but still) then it reset. It has happened 3 times. I emailed UBI and they said the stats have nothing to do with them. Its down to the LIVE team. I am still awaiting their reply.

[XyZspineZyX]

I don't think you guys understand the ELO ranking system. It was originally designed for chess and it it based upon your opposition for the most part. If you played in a room with a bunch of people who suck your ELO will be the highest and continue to grow based on ather factors like K ratio length of time you stay alive... Once you leave that room and join a game with a bunch of players who have proven themselves against other very good players your score is balanced. You enter the room with your score the same as the top player but one round into it and you are compared to the others and your score accurately reflects your skill. Chess is one of the most demanding games when it comes to ranking and this system is the one they chose. I just think it helps a bit to understand it better before you critique it.

Your ride to the morgue,
sufferpilot

[XyZspineZyX]

Sufferpilot I don't think you understand what he is trying to say. I'm having the same problems!

I and two of my friends played Terrorrist Hunt, I started the game at 992 ELO, we finished the map and when i looked at the ELO it whent up to 1003 or something, but when my friend changed to another map, Wham! ELO back down to 992.

I'm talking about T-Hunt, every time we finish a map the ELO scores go up, but as soon as the map changes the ELO goes back to the original score.

I understand how the ELO system works, and it works fine for Survival-Sharp and Team Survival but coop T-hunts are all screwed up. I have about 600 kills and like 12 deaths and still have a 992 ELO score.

[XyZspineZyX]

ya, plus, sometimes they mess up by subtracting points. i played adversarial, in a combined 2 rounds got 14 kills, and only died about 3 times, and my elo went down over 50 points.

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[XyZspineZyX]

Think of it like this. If you are on a high school chess team and you play other members of your school team you each earn your own ranking. Let's say the top guy has 1400. This ELO is based on a handfull of factors (wins/loses, how long you survive on average, how quickly you defeat an opponent, and other points of skill), but most importantly the ELO of the opponents you face. Now its time for this top guy to go to state championships. Since his ranking is based on others in his school and not the entire state, each members ELO is recalculated against the entire state. Thats what happens when you change maps. Also make note that if any one leaves or if any one new joins, the ELO of each member of the match is effected.



Your ride to the morgue,
sufferpilot

[XyZspineZyX]

Better yet check out this site.

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/petan...s/descript.htm

Your ride to the morgue,
sufferpilot

[XyZspineZyX]

Pilot....please read this slowly so that you understand

WE KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS. WE GET THE POINTS, AND THEN THEY DISAPPEAR AFTER THE MAP IS CHANGED.

....thank you for your cooperation

[XyZspineZyX]

Right. This just happened to me on Team Survival. I was doing pretty good and got my ELO up to 1450 and was ranked #1 in the room. Then there was a map change. The same people were in the room, and all of a sudden I'm at 1360. WTH (heck, f was rejected...)? Playing a few more games and doing OK, I'm finding it next to imposible to increase my score again...