Silent Hunter 'fantasy' 4...not for me. | Forums

[RedTerex]

I feel the need of a rant in its own thread

Having read what the expansion is about, ie, the ability to use a prototype U-boat?? in cahooch with IJN forces?? to sink Allied shipping in the Indian ocean and surrounding waters?? with a specialy gifted U-boat Commander and crew?? is not for me thanks.

Silent Hunter has always attracted me as a hardline realistic Simulation of Historic events and times gone by, the blood, sweat and tears of heroism, the fear and intrugue of what men realy went through is always at the back on my mind and this adds a depth of gameplay and 'feel' to the game unparralled in any other PC game. It pays a funny sort of homage as well.

To change the focus and scope of Silent Hunter to a "what if" scenario is 2 steps backwards and not one step forward.

I wish the Devs had asked the community what it would have liked instead of "doing one" off their own bat. 'Raven Shield' was a winner a great game, and I watched with great dispondancy as this great title was cruely trashed with new angles and approaches that the genre of the original title didnt warrant and Silent Hunter I fear may now go the same.

Instead of looking for new customers UBi..you should look after the loyal ones you have already got in this...as it is... small market for this type of game.

An Expansion should upgrade and improve what we already have in existance within the game at hand and NOT bring a totaly different aspect to it. If anything this expansion should be for SHIII and NOT SHIV.

I discovered that I do not like sinking British or American ships, I just dont get any enjoyment in watching a US or GB ship gown down after one of my torps has sunk it.

Sinking Japanese ships however brings a smile to my face every time as it did with the very first, fantasticaly concieved and generaly adored Silent Hunter.

I wont be purchasing or installing the expansion as I have elected to remain in the real historic world of SH4 Wolves of the Pacific.

[capt_frank]

I personaly am quite excited about the expansion. Not the "fantasy" aspect of its development but rather that it will expand the excellent SHIV modeling capabilities to the Atlantic theater.

I also don't have a problem with target nationality. It's a game to me, something for fun and relaxation, not an ethics or ethnic quandry.

So yes, I'm buying, maybe even two!

PS. I also purchased IL2 1946 to support Oleg and UBI. Sure I had fun for a day or so schlepping around in the fantasy jets but then settled back into my normal play, that of theater and time reality.

[Subsunk1307]

I concur with Redterex, I have played SHI,II,III & IV and found the graphics in III & IV awsome, however as Redterex so aptly discribes, SHIV is a game about US fleet boats in the Pacific not U Boats in the Atlantic/Pacific, by all means bring out expansion packs for both games, fix some of the ongoing problems, rather than going off at a tangent to who know where.

[Wolferz]

[mush1960]

Originally posted by Subsunk1307:
I concur with Redterex, I have played SHI,II,III & IV and found the graphics in III & IV awsome, however as Redterex so aptly discribes, SHIV is a game about US fleet boats in the Pacific not U Boats in the Atlantic/Pacific, by all means bring out expansion packs for both games, fix some of the ongoing problems, rather than going off at a tangent to who know where.

Agreed, 110%

[Goose_Green]

Originally posted by RedTerex:
I feel the need of a rant in its own thread

Having read what the expansion is about, ie, the ability to use a prototype U-boat?? in cahooch with IJN forces?? to sink Allied shipping in the Indian ocean and surrounding waters?? with a specialy gifted U-boat Commander and crew?? is not for me thanks.

Silent Hunter has always attracted me as a hardline realistic Simulation of Historic events and times gone by, the blood, sweat and tears of heroism, the fear and intrugue of what men realy went through is always at the back on my mind and this adds a depth of gameplay and 'feel' to the game unparralled in any other PC game. It pays a funny sort of homage as well.

To change the focus and scope of Silent Hunter to a "what if" scenario is 2 steps backwards and not one step forward.

I wish the Devs had asked the community what it would have liked instead of "doing one" off their own bat. 'Raven Shield' was a winner a great game, and I watched with great dispondancy as this great title was cruely trashed with new angles and approaches that the genre of the original title didnt warrant and Silent Hunter I fear may now go the same.

Instead of looking for new customers UBi..you should look after the loyal ones you have already got in this...as it is... small market for this type of game.

An Expansion should upgrade and improve what we already have in existance within the game at hand and NOT bring a totaly different aspect to it. If anything this expansion should be for SHIII and NOT SHIV.

I discovered that I do not like sinking British or American ships, I just dont get any enjoyment in watching a US or GB ship gown down after one of my torps has sunk it.

Sinking Japanese ships however brings a smile to my face every time as it did with the very first, fantasticaly concieved and generaly adored Silent Hunter.

I wont be purchasing or installing the expansion as I have elected to remain in the real historic world of SH4 Wolves of the Pacific.

Well said that man

[Lord_Nelson2005]

Totally agree that the expansion should of been for III or IV.......

[elanaiba2]

Its very very very very hard to work on 3 years old code - that of SH3 - and add stuff on top of that.

A little off topic:
Sub sims players should be a community. You know, I don't think real Silent Service and Ubootwaffe veterans would hold as much anger against each other as I sometimes see between fans of the the two theaters of operations.

[shadow_858]

I think there are several issues here. The first is that whatever their failings, Ubisoft is the only company out there that has stayed with a subsim for PC game series, marketing to a pretty small demographic.

Both Silent Hunter 3 and Silent Hunter 4 are great games in my view. Were they incomplete at relaese....yes...did they both require heavy patching....yes....but patched and modded to taste, they are both great games.

I think it's also important that people differentiate between Ubisoft and the Devs. I promise you that these Devs have gone above and beyond for Silent Hunter 4, and the game is as moddable as it is because the Devs pushed it that way.

I have no interest in U Boats in the Indian Ocean, but if the modders now have the foundation to build a full U Boat campaign in the Atlantic, and if the ROW guys and the GWX guys were to get together, imagine the possibilities.

[elanaiba2]

Well...

We, the devs, are Ubisoft. We're not suits, of course. We're not top brass. But still part of it.

Let me tell you a little something. Every time people say "I won't buy SH4 because SH3 + GWX is better" they drive a nail into the coffin of modability.

And heh, boy did I see that many times after the launch of Wolves

I can't fight my battles without support. We care. We are also tired. Sometimes, the easy way is... out. Consider this when judging how Ubi will treat the series in the future.