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[NitroExtreme]

First off let me point out I'm one of the hardcore Splinter Cell fans. Heck the reason I bought my original Xbox was for Splinter Cell. Now I've always played SC for the single player and more recently the co-op. So now that you know where I'm coming from let me begin my rant.

I love the idea of new crowd mechanic. But I don't like how ubi is using it. Instead of using the mechanic as the core it should have been used as an ADDITION to the series. For those of you who have read the books you'll know what I mean. Imagine this: Sam starts off as a civilian, sneaks into the building or target area using the crowd mechainc, finds a room, changes into his cat suit and boom back to classic splnter game play. Basicly instead of starting off at your insertion point you would have to get there on your own. That would be the ultimate SC game. O well maybe SC 6. Wait never mind Shaghai will be making that one next year.. so maybe SC 7. lol

Although I still have faith in Ubi Montreal, heck they did an amazing job with Chaos Theory and DA xbox.
So what do you guys think?

[ox Se7eN xo]

first off let me explain that the books have no bearing to the games

in fact they suck

secondly, he's a FUGITIVE!! meaning he doesnt HAVE the goggles, the weapons or the CAT SUIT as you say

[Th3C47]

Originally posted by S7N:
first off let me explain that the books have no bearing to the games

in fact they suck

secondly, he's a FUGITIVE!! meaning he doesnt HAVE the goggles, the weapons or the CAT SUIT as you say

Well, yeah, and that sucks, because that's what Splinter Cell is all about.

[simulacra]

So now splinter cell is a suit?
which one? The full slimfit one or the one where he's got camo fatigues?

And why would he change into the sneaksuit once he's in the building? why not keep going as he is?
I really think that some need to realize that there's more to sc than dark patches in rooms, black clothes and the goggles...

[ox Se7eN xo]

yeah, who looks more out of place?

a guy wearing jeans and a hoodie, or a guy in a latex suit with three glowing lights on his head and a machine gun strapped to his back?

[LoneInTheDark]

I liked the books. The second being my favorite. It was the editing that was deplorable. It was nice getting inside Sam's head, learning his grandfather or father, can't remember which, was ex military, the history behind him and Regan. The books made him human, the games made him a hero.

[SPROGGY]

Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
The books made him human, the games made him a hero.

EXACTLY! The game developers have seen this and want to correct it. They dont feel like theyve fleshed out the character of Sam Fisher sufficiently enough. Conviction is, in large part, about getting to know Sam and what hes made of.

[EmmaJordan]

Originally posted by deepego3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
The books made him human, the games made him a hero.

EXACTLY! The game developers have seen this and want to correct it. They dont feel like theyve fleshed out the character of Sam Fisher sufficiently enough. Conviction is, in large part, about getting to know Sam and what hes made of. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kudos for them....

For my part, however, I would rather play a game that allowed me to be the hero and particpate in what makes him great... rather than to explore his character, his insecurities, his faults or other aspects of his humanity..

[ox Se7eN xo]

we saw the hero version of Fisher in SC, PT and CT (though we did see a litte of Fisher's humanity in CT)

in DA we saw the emotional side of him and how he copes with his daughter's death

there's no point in going back on itself and have Fisher as a hero when he is already an emotional wreck

Conviction isnt about him saving the lives of others, it's about him saving his own life. there's no heroism in it, he's out for himself

[EmmaJordan]

Originally posted by S7N:
we saw the hero version of Fisher in SC, PT and CT (though we did see a litte of Fisher's humanity in CT)

in DA we saw the emotional side of him and how he copes with his daughter's death

there's no point in going back on itself and have Fisher as a hero when he is already an emotional wreck

Conviction isnt about him saving the lives of others, it's about him saving his own life. there's no heroism in it, he's out for himself

Here is a new game idea... Let's call it "REHAB"... one man, saving his own life... one step at a time. There can be 12 missions....Each one will be a "step" in a "12 step program".

Nah... I like the "hero" side of Sam Fisher that was displayed in the first three games.