[Heroes 6] is supposed to be a strategy game but it's strategy-free. You just go from start to finish and cutting down each and every enemy without care about formulating any specific strategies or fear of defeat.
This one is the easiest in the series so far.
Originally posted by Thonlo:
Except that isn't right. Not in the least.
SC2 is a strategy game. Real time strategy. One is RTS, the other is turn based. There's a comparison.
No, not really... no.
Real-Time Strategy was a marketing term used a long time ago to describe computer games that wasn't turn based. It isn't even an accurate term today. Gaming companies don't even create games like that anymore.
StarCraft 2 is really an action game. Closer to an arcade game.
In both games you build and control armies.
Actually, in Might & Magic: Heroes VI you hire and control heroes.
In both games your "build order" is quite important.
That's not accurate...
In StarCraft 2, you can order workers to build as many structures (of the same type) as you can afford.
In Might & Magic: Heroes VI, the hero you control must enter/capture towns in order to erect a structure. In addition, you can only erect structures sequentially. If you wanted to erect structures of the same type, your hero must enter/capture another town which by the way, if you capture enough towns you can win the game.
In StarCraft 2, to win the game, you must destroy structures.
So, you can build structures in both games, you can also build structures in the Sim City games... are you gonna compare that game to StarCraft, too?
This is why I say it's not really a fair comparison between the two games. It's embarrassing, actually.
I mean, you can try to play a Heroes game the same way you'd play StarCraft but I think you'd have problems.
To be honest, I haven't played Heroes VI yet but I assume that the core gameplay elements haven't changed much from previous versions so I'm confident in my remarks.
Even the bravest of heroes must rest sometime.
Starcraft II wasn't full of bugs and didn't crash randomly on release, stark contrast to Heroes VI
Originally posted by poorbeggarman:
Starcraft II wasn't full of bugs and didn't crash randomly on release, stark contrast to Heroes VI
You're kidding, right?
StarCraft 2 was EXTREMELY full of bugs upon release.
You are either ignorant of the multiple patches which is what 99% of the 'discussions' [read: complaints] are revolved around at battle.net or you are a fanboy.
There is even a dedicated forum within battle.net itself to deal with the numerous bugs and issues that plague that game, that's how serious the 'bug' issue is with StarCraft 2.
Go ahead and do a Google search, "list of every starcraft 2 patch" and tell the forum here what the search engine finds.
...and as far as crashing...?
StarCraft 2 doesn't even have to crash to the desktop because the players in multiplayer games already got that area covered; The players at battle.net themselves don't even respect StarCraft 2 because they are the ones that crash the game with disconnects and third party programs...
...mainly because StarCraft 2 players have a hard time dealing with defeat!
Even the bravest of heroes must rest sometime.
Still don't understand people defending a product wchich is poor and doesn't work. Imagine u buy a new car and u cant drive it properly. Do you patiently wait for the fixes saying "its a good car and i saw worse ?". I'm ****ed and im currently trying to get my money back.
As for sc2 and homm6, its like comparing table tennis to tennis. Doesnt make sense to me.
Originally posted by HEF2011:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by poorbeggarman:
Starcraft II wasn't full of bugs and didn't crash randomly on release, stark contrast to Heroes VI
You're kidding, right?
StarCraft 2 was EXTREMELY full of bugs upon release.
You are either ignorant of the multiple patches which is what 99% of the 'discussions' [read: complaints] are revolved around at battle.net or you are a fanboy.
There is even a dedicated forum within battle.net itself to deal with the numerous bugs and issues that plague that game, that's how serious the 'bug' issue is with StarCraft 2.
Go ahead and do a Google search, "list of every starcraft 2 patch" and tell the forum here what the search engine finds.
...and as far as crashing...?
StarCraft 2 doesn't even have to crash to the desktop because the players in multiplayer games already got that area covered; The players at battle.net themselves don't even respect StarCraft 2 because they are the ones that crash the game with disconnects and third party programs...
...mainly because StarCraft 2 players have a hard time dealing with defeat!
Hey HEF2011
Are you sure that SC2 was EXTREMELY full of bugs?
I was able to complete SC2 single player game out of the box
And enjoyed it
So you are deliberately LYING about EXTREMELY full of bugs
Only first several patches were bugfixes
And these bugs did not affect my single player experience
Because they were not critical
The latter patches were mostly balance changes
And I tell you this:
I cannot complete HoMM VI out of the box because of CTDs and bugs
I have a workaround for CTDs
But I cannot enjoy the game because of many bugs
How do you reply to this?
You have not even played Heroes VI yet to make judgements
Shame on you!! Why are you here?
Do you have Heroes VI?
Do you own SC2 title to make judgements?
Just stop talking your imaginary nonsense about SC2
It has good singleplayer good multiplayer and prompt support
And I say it once more to you: You are incompetent
And lastly:
HoMM is turn based strategy
SC2 is real time strategy
They are both strategies
Get used to it. This is how the world goes
Do not feed this forum with your imaginary explanations
I really like HoMM VI
I want it to be a finished product
So it becomes a good piece of entertainment
Just like SC2 currently is
And lastly:
HoMM is turn based strategy
SC2 is real time strategy
They are both strategies
Get used to it. This is how the world goes
Do not feed this forum with your imaginary explanations
I really like HoMM VI
I want it to be a finished product
So it becomes a good piece of entertainment
Just like SC2 currently is
Just this, rest is just needless rage against a troll.
+1
About the thread , imo:
A turn based strategy game should offer a lot more complex content, like too many races and resources and too many variables so that you think.
A real time strategy game however should offer more micro management, less time on resources and races and variables so that you react.
This pretty much covers my opinion about the game, it is just boring. Still, im ready to give this game a second chance once some bugs are fixed and i can actually play the campaign without crashes or disconnects. I paid 49.99 after all...
To make it more clear for HEF2011 about strategies:
In SC2 you explore the map
In HoMM IV you explore the map
In SC2 you accumulate resources
In HoMM IV you accumulate resources
In SC2 you expand to capture more resources
In HoMM IV you expand to capture more resources
In SC2 you build structures
In HoMM IV you build structures
In SC2 you build armies
In HoMM IV you build armies
In SC2 you fight with armies
In HoMM IV you fight with heroes+armies
In SC2 you have to make decisions to achieve mission goals
In HoMM IV you have to make decisions to achieve mission goals
- which buildings to build given resource or strategy constraints
- which army composition to have
- what to capture
- what to destroy
- where to go and what to do
In SC2 you destroy buildings and armies
In HoMM IV you destroy armies
capture towns and plunder/sabotage mines
Both games are strategies
SC2 is realtime thus more reaction based
HoMM VI is turn based
HoMM VI also has some role-playing elements
Heroes with stats can influence armies
Also note:
I'm talking about singleplayer game here
Although multiplayer is almost no different
In few more fiscal quarters, StarCraft 2 will end up in the same hole as the rest of Blizzard Entertainment's 'showelware', which is satisfying the low common denominator and raking in the cash from the unwashed masses.
Now, I'm not in this forum to defend Might & Magic: Heroes VI but to present the facts:
Might & Magic: Heroes VI cannot be compared to StarCraft II.
...and it doesn't even matter what playable state Heroes is currently in right now.
I'll bet that if Blizzard Entertainment went out of business today, no one would pick the IP up. The StarCraft series would literally dissolve right before your very eyes!
You can't say the same thing about the Might & Magic series.
...and while you compose your next post in this thread, take a look at StarCraft 2's patch history that deals with balance changes AND BUG FIXES.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/sta...ll_Starcraft_2_Nerfs
Lying, indeed...!
Even the bravest of heroes must rest sometime.
that is limited to your experience and possibly to your pc configuration.And I tell you this:
I cannot complete HoMM VI out of the box because of CTDs and bugs
I have a workaround for CTDs
But I cannot enjoy the game because of many bugs
How do you reply to this?
been playing since the release and i have completed the campaign flawlessly despite the bugs and i NEVER had a crash.
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