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[MoreMP]

First let me say I am extremely pleased with this game!

I really started getting into the character of this game until I got back from my first mission in 1939 and awards from 1944 started to get handed out.

As an expert in German Military decorations, I would like to offer the following recomendations to see if a patch can fix this:

Here is what happend to me on my 6th mission (1940). I sunk two merchants and when I got back I was awarded the Knights Cross with Oakleaves 'AND' Knights Cross with Oakleaves and Swords 'AND' the German Cross. These awards were not yet available for this timeline.

Awarding of the U-Boot Kriegsabzeichen (U-Boat Badge)should not be awarded until on or after the second sortie.

Awarding of the Kriegsorden Des Deutschen Kreuzes (War Order of the German Cross)
should not be available until its inseption date of 28.September.1941. Hense the date 1941 on the gold wreath.

Awarding of the U-Boots Frontspange (U-Boat Combat Clasp) should not be available until its inseption date of 15.May.1944 for the BRONZE and later the SILVER on 24.November.1944. This had to be personnaly approved by Grossadmiral Karl Donitz.

The addition of the Ehrentafelspange der Kriegsmarine (Honour Roll Clasp of the Navy). This award was available on 13.May.1944. The Iron Cross 1st and 2nd classes must already have been won.

Ritterkreuze des Eisernes Kreuze 1.Sept.1939
Eichenlaub (Oakleaves) 19.July.1940
Schwerten (Swords) 21.June.1941
Brillianten (Diamonds) 15.July.2941

[DegreeAbsolute]

Wow. I'll sign on. Good research!

[Beeryus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MoreMP:
I really started getting into the character of this game until I got back from my first mission in 1939 and awards from 1944 started to get handed out. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me too. I'm actually working on a mod that makes medals more realistic, although the way they are implemented there's not much chance of making them truly realistic until we find someone capable of writing a program to alter the config files based on career date.

What I'm doing in the meantime is making the U-Boat Badge get awarded at a rate of about 20 per patrol, so trhat after two patrols everyone will have one.

The Uboot frontspange is the nastiest one. Basically, in order to have it appear in 1944 I'll have to make it really hard to get, and even then it may appear earlier or too late. There's no way to tie it down to a date. It might be easier to just remove it from the game.

The German Cross and the Knights Cross upgrades will be easier to make reasonably accurate - it's just a matter of making them require more work to get them. It still doesn't guarantee accuracy, but it will be a start.

[hauitsme]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>MoreMP:
As an expert in German Military decorations... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Since when were awards/decorations handed out like candy at a fair?

At the rate this 'game' hands them out, my crew and officers won't be able to climb any ladders or even walk upright because of the weight of them.

[Beeryus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hauitsme:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>MoreMP:
As an expert in German Military decorations... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Since when were awards/decorations handed out like candy at a fair?

At the rate this 'game' hands them out, my crew and officers won't be able to climb any ladders or even walk upright because of the weight of them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely right. There is a problem with the game awarding higher level decorations waaaay too quickly. There's also a problem with the game not handing out the Uboat war badge as quickly as they were in reality. I'm hoping to make the medal situation at least a bit more realistic in the mod I'm working on.

[Dunbal]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hauitsme:


At the rate this 'game' hands them out, my crew and officers won't be able to climb any ladders or even walk upright because of the weight of them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Look on the bright side, maybe with all that extra weight your dive time will be reduced? Good for getting under the waves quick when you spot enemy aircraft...

[forager1971]

i have made note of this as well. i have the knights cross with gold leaves, swords, and diamonds. only problem is it is march 1942.

which brings up the next question has anyone gotten other awards after receiving that one?????

[quillan]

You mean the captain's medals? I got the Knights Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds a while back, and the patrol before this one, I was awarded the U-boat Front Clasp. There was quite a gap between the two.

[RedTerex]

Thats nothing.
I promoted an Officer twice and he outranked me LOL.

So I just stood there for hours wating for him to tell me to go to Full speed and nothing happend. J/K !

[Beeryus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RedTerex:
Thats nothing.
I promoted an Officer twice and _he_ outranked _me_ LOL. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the other thing that's bothersome: the game starts you off as a Leutnant zur See, but I don't think any U-Boat commander ever had the rank of Leutnant zur See. They all started at Oberleutnant zur See. In my game I changed the requirement for the Oberleutnant rank to 0 so that it comes immediately, but you don't get to see it until after the first patrol. I guess there's a sort of realism to that though, since usually the rank appointment usually came before the commander got his uniform changed.