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[kilpatrick1981]

Few months back, there were lots of speculations that a certain Ubi/Free game will be release for the Wii as with other next-gen consoles. I guess Wii were wrong.

What's going?

[deded999]

Haze is almost definetly beyond the Wii's ability at it's graphical current level. One of the choices Nintendo made when they stepped off the next-gen train...

[Metal_alpha]

If we consider that Wii will be sold more than expected, Haze will still ignore this platform ?

[deded999]

Don't get your hopes up. It doesn't matter how many machines Wii sells if Haze is technically 'impossible' to do on it. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, just that it seems a tall order. If FRD thought a Wii version was possible then it would most likely have been announced along with the other versions. That's not to say it couldn't happen but it seems very unlikely.

Sorry guys - you can't have a 'cheap' (and I'm not dissing - I plan to get one too) console that also plays graphically cutting-edge games, HD display or not. That's the trade-off Nintendo chose to make this generation - cheap and innovative, but not cutting-edge graphically.

[Extra_Extra_Guy]

You never really know anyway...I mean, look at Half-life 2 for PC. They were able to size it down to the xbox's capabilities.

[Metal_alpha]

Look back in the console war history please. Why we don't get so many games on our GC ? Technically, a GC is more powerfull and easy to use than a ps2 and ps2 development kits.

When I look next-gen games, apart of the graphic part, I don't see any great changes between current-gen games and next-gen games. Look at GT HD Demo for PS3, it's like GT for PS2 with superior graphics (With very crappy slow Frame per second).

Haze put all its efforts on graphics ? What Haze cannot make on wii, apart the ps3-graphics ? Destructible environments like MGS4 ? Come on guys, Red Faction on PS2 has that and it works fine.

I still don't get why developpers separate Xbox-ps and Nintendo-console since GC. And it's not a problem of power...

[deded999]

Originally posted by Metal_alpha:
Look back in the console war history please. Why we don't get so many games on our GC ? Technically, a GC is more powerfull and easy to use than a ps2 and ps2 development kits.

When I look next-gen games, apart of the graphic part, I don't see any great changes between current-gen games and next-gen games. Look at GT HD Demo for PS3, it's like GT for PS2 with superior graphics (With very crappy slow Frame per second).

Just to put this straight, Gran Turismo HD shown at E3 was a demo only, as they said at the conference, using GT4 art assets merely to prove the PS3 could do 1080p at 60fps. The actual PS3 GT game (previously announced as Vision GT, although that might not be the final title) will have a new graphics engine and look significantly better than the demo.

Haze put all its efforts on graphics ? What Haze cannot make on wii, apart the ps3-graphics ? Destructible environments like MGS4 ? Come on guys, Red Faction on PS2 has that and it works fine.

I still don't get why developpers separate Xbox-ps and Nintendo-console since GC. And it's not a problem of power...

I didn't say the Wii definetly couldn't do Haze, but if FRD intended to release it on Wii they would likely have announced it for Wii along with the other machines. Yes, some games are announced for a machine then released on others, but not often for all the major formats bar one, and then released later for the one it avoided.

I'm not dissing the Wii, (and I intend to get one at the moment) - it's simply that Nintendo made a concious decision with the machine to avoid the HD/cutting-edge graphics route, which means that they will miss out on many multi-platform releases simply because either the Wii cannot handle the game complexity or quite possibly can (with lower textures/models), but the re-programming effort required isn't worth the developers time/energy. Unfortunate but I think true.

For Wii owners it may be that a second console (or a PC) will be a necessity in order to play the more graphically demanding games of this generation.

[Metal_alpha]

Originally posted by deded999:
For Wii owners it may be that a second console (or a PC) will be a necessity in order to play the more graphically demanding games of this generation.

And for people who hasn't any money to buy two consoles : if we consider $250 for a Wii + $300 for an Xbox360 and $70 for your game = $620 !! OUCH. (and I don't mentionned PS3...)

Beautiful games, yes ! But beautiful and complex games = big development costs and so big retail price. And if games aren't really good (beautiful doesn't mean good), people won't buy them, the corporate loose money, and so, me and you know what happens then...

Nintendo make its decision, FRD make its decision too, we will see which one is the best...

[deded999]

I'm sorry to see no announcement for the Wii. Maybe they'll change their minds in the future when the machine's capabilities are more well known.

[Thunderpants1]

I wanna see how the new 'TV Remote' works as a controller before worrying about buying one (and I mean in the hands of gamers, not those overzealous writers for magazines and websites; they think every new thing is the greatest thing since sliced bread). If the new controller does work out, then, and only then, will I worry so much about whats going to be on it.