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[KingImp]

Since most are almost sure the Academy is the next town to be revealed (plus Chuckles has the section already set up and I don't think Mr. Inside Info would do that unless he knew something concrete), what do you think the creature lineup will be for this town.


My picks would be this:
Level 1 - Halfling/Halfling Favorite ( )
Level 2 - Dwarf/Battle Dwarf
Level 3 - Grey Wizard/White Wizard
Level 4 - Iron Golem/Gold Golem
Level 5 - Genie/Master Genie
Level 6 - Naga/Naga Queen
Level 7 - Giant/Titan


Personally I thought the Gremlins were an idiotic idea and that's why I didn't bring them back. As for the Naga, I really didn't want to add them as I don't feel they really ever fit here, but I couldn't think of a decent alternative.

On a side note, if Golems do return, what type of material would you like to see them made out of? I didn't like the idea of them starting as stone in H3 so that's why I made the base creature iron and then upgraded to the H4 version of gold.

[Zamolxis108]

Originally posted by KingImp:
Level 1 - Halfling/Halfling Favorite ( )

Loooool!!!

[Azmael]

For the Dwarf... not sure. I cannot understand why dwarves are in academy. But, it only my opinion.

[Beltion]

For the golems, why would they go from iron to gold? Gold is a very soft metal and not something you'd use for anything you plan to use in battle (unless you'd give the golden one some magic abilities).

So just of the top of my head: Golem -> War Golem (or Battle Golem). The unupgraded one would be the generic golem with punching attacks, the upgraded one would be designed for battle and instead of real hands would have weapons of some sort, either blades or sledgehammer resembling lumps.

[Aseved]

Guess 1 - Rapid Guess:

1 - Halfing/Master Halfing
2 - Gargoile/Obsidian Gargoile
3 - Stone Golem/Iron Golem
4 - Mage/Archmage
5 - Genie/Master Genie
6 - Naga/Naga Queen (or Naga Favorite )
7 - Giant/Titan

Just H3 lineup, substituting the gremlins by halfings, wich are nicer

Guess 2 - Toughtful Guess:

We know that Academy is based on the Free Cities of the East, a splint-off of the Holy Empire, who decided not to follow the Dragon of Light but the original Falcon Empire belief on the Dragon of Air. We could guess the Dragon of Air is still the Academy patriarch Dragon.

From the mage list there are two creatures wich are perfect for a city of "Air": Genies and Titans, whe could guess these two are in.

Mages/Archmages are nearly a must, so let's put them in also. Halfings are not at odds with air either, that makes four creatures.

Left are: Golems, Gargoiles and Nagas from Heroes III, Dwarves and Dragon Golems if we add Heroes IV.

From these, Dragon Golems are probably not repeating, and Dwarves do not look very air-like. I'll put these two out.

Problem comes with Golems, Gargoiles and Nagas... Nagas could be said neutral to air, so I do not know if fitting them in or not. Golems don't seem air-like, but are kind of a classical creatures. Might be solved by adding gargoiles instead of Golems. Or maybe using Gargoile as an upgrade?

The thing is, the creature that would trully fit in a Mage-Air city, is a comeback of the Roc from Heroes II, and I want to fit it in, so I'll either scrap the nagas o use the golem upgrade... let's use the golem upgrade:

Level 1 - Halfing / Halfing Sheriff
Level 2 - Golem / Gairgole
Level 3 - Mage / Archmage
Level 4 - Roc / Thunderbird
Level 5 - Genie / Master Genie
Level 6 - Naga / Naga Queen
Level 7 - Giant / Titan

It messes a bit the levels, scrapping Nagas, it would be

Level 1 - Halfing / Halfing Sheriff
Level 2 - Gairgole / Obsidian Gairgole
Level 3 - Stone Golem / Iron Golem
Level 4 - Mage / Archmage
Level 5 - Roc / Thunderbird
Level 6 - Genie / Master Genie
Level 7 - Giant / Titan

Maybe a bit better, but, who knows... maybe there are some surprises in form of new kinds of units.

[Beltion]

Originally posted by Aseved:
We know that Academy is based on the Free Cities of the East, a splint-off of the Holy Empire, who decided not to follow the Dragon of Light but the original Falcon Empire belief on the Dragon of Air. We could guess the Dragon of Air is still the Academy patriarch Dragon.

No we don't know that. After reading the necro timeline I'm assuming that the Academy is actually the Silver League (aka the Second Kingdom of Magic), to the South of the Griffin Empire.

"The other disciples, led by Sar-Shazzar, the most gifted of them all, lead an exodus of wizards and like-minded humans to found the Seven Cities (the first kingdom of Magic) in the southern deserts."

[Aseved]

My bad, yep you're right, I don't know why I confused the Seven Cities with the Free cities of the East, making both the same thing...

In that case, all my guess #2 goes surely to trash, as the mages won't be followers of the Dragon of Air ... but, wich dragon instead?, the Dragon of Order, like the necromancers, or maybe the Seventh Dragon?

[rasdel]

I am not technically going to put a line up, i am just gonna comment on some creatures...NOTE that hey are NOT going to be placed in order nor by level.

Halfling- they are A LOT better than the Gremlins (IMHO) design-wise of course. They fit the wizard simply cause like in LOTR Gandalf had a good relationship with them, so i like them in the Academy.

Gremlin- this is NOT a bad idea, they are craftman so they basically are the "workers" of the Wizards... i simply don't think they fit, since they are green and look more like a goblin or something like that.

Gnome- i know this creature is in NO HOMM game, but it think this could be a good replacement either for the halfling or the Gremlin... it look good, and this creatures are also craftmen.

Gargoyle- a must have if you ask me... if there is going to be an "arcane" town i believe all these animated beings MUST be in it!...

Golem- another must have... but i would like it to have a little twist... instead of STONE/IRON, or IRON/GOLD... i would like something like... CLAY GOLEM (weaker but a little faster) and then upgradable to ROCK GOLEM (stronger but slower), this would be nice (IMHO)

Roc-totally fits and should return... I don't like them turning into thunderbirds.. since they are different mithological creatures... i would like them to be like in HOMM II roc (basically a giant eagle) and turning into a "Ancestral/Monarch/Favorite ROC" (which would be exactly like the mythological creature, a GIANT WHITE BIRD OF PREY).

Genie- ok, i said it once and i will say it again... i personally don't like them... but since our fellow gamer CHUCKLES is being so good to us... i belive NIVAL should include this creature so that CHUCKLES will be happy (he deserves it, plus with a good design i believe the genies would NOT be that bad).

Naga- AWESOME creature, who does not like them (well... in HOMM IV i don't, but anyway...): They look good, they are good... but can they really "fit" with the Academy, we don't really know that... it all depends in the academy's background.

Titan-Who does NOT like them! They are the master of ranged combat!!! i would like them to be like a HUGE golem, and not just a huge human... in other words i rather have a TITAN upgradable to COLOSSUS, than a Giant upgradable to Titan.

Magi-There is not much to say, they are the SYMBOL...the ICON of this town there is NO way they can be left out!

Boar-There's been a while since we last saw these guys along with the Wizards... hope the DON'T come back ANY TIME SOON!!!

I think that is it... i don't think i miss anyone... i am not sure which 7 ones will BE IN the town... but i know that Titans, Magi and Golems MUST BE IN (a long with other favorites but these are the 3 most symbolic creatures).

[KingImp]

Honestly, I just don't like the idea of the Gargoyle being in this town. To me, that creature is dark and ominous and fits much better in the Necro town, or at least as a Death-type neutral creature.

[The_Vortex]

My 2 guesses:

1st one is tipical/usual:

1. Halfling / Halfling Elite
2. Stone Golem / Iron Golem
3. Roc / Thunderbird
4. Mage / Archmage
5. Genie / Master Genie
6. Naga / Naga Queen
7. Giant / Titan


2nd guess is a product of my strange imagination

1. Gremlin / Gremlin Elite
2. Aprentice / Enchanter (these 2 units can cast charm / mind spells)
3. Elementalist / Grand Elementalist (they can summon lesser elementals)
4. Invoker / Grand Invoker (can cast damage spells)
5. Genie / Master Genie
6. Naga Queen / Naga Matriarch (upgrade has unlimited retaliations)
7. Giant / Titan