I can see why he would want to quit look at all the mess he has had to deal with and sooth over up until this point.Originally posted by znork:
First off all it easter so i would not expect anyting until after its over.
The cd(comunety developer) the person who is in charge withe contact between fans and the dev team just quit so we are waiting for a new person to take over.
Im shure ms kensay is working hard to get us som news.
she got a new and bether paying job.Originally posted by shop2B2DDF2DF:
I can see why he would want to quit look at all the mess he has had to deal with and sooth over up until this point.
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Not true, Xhane left for personal reasons. The Might & Magic team will miss her.Originally posted by znork:
she got a new and bether paying job.
Anyway, her replacement should arrive soonish, and communication will get better.
This.Originally posted by znork:
First off all it easter so i would not expect anyting until after its over.
As posted in the other topic we're working on an official statement that will hopefully clarify the reasons of the delay and when the Beta is coming.
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well she was moving abroad as she said in the farwell post in the offtopic thread. So i only hope it would be a bether paying job. But you are correct marzhin we will miss her.
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Ok, so, there's some stuff I need to say after reading all of your posts so far. First thing: digital copies of the game are not ripoffs, some people such as myself don't really care about posters and boxes and actually, I pre-ordered on Steam just for that reason, because I do not want to own stuff that have no use, and for the obvious reason, which is the main argument for my first point in this post, it costs £25 less. Yes, to all of you who want a pretty box with a poster and all of the other stuff, the exact same game (Collector's Edition / Deluxe Edition) costs almost twice the money I paid for it, which is £35. So if you think you're being ripped off with digital content, think again. Oh, and by the way, a little thing to think about: If you're not at home but desperately want to play some MMH6 at your friend's place or wherever... what do you do? (Hint: You can't do that with the physical copy of the game, but with the digital one, just download Steam, log in, download the game and play.).
Ok, enough about that. Second order of business is the release date. Let me put the problem this way: If everybody started to walk naked on the streets, would that make it socially acceptable? What I mean to say is that we don't have to settle with postpones just because everybody is doing it. If you don't know for sure when your game is coming out, don't mention a release date just as Valve did with DotA 2, don't just get everybody's hopes up and then just say "Sorry, our bad.". Moreover, the reason seems a bit ridiculous to me "We want to ensure that the quality of the game will go beyond your expectations!". From my experience in the gaming industry, studios don't just add new major content to the game in the last 3 months of development. From where I stand, it just seems like the QA or Dev departments are facing some kind of problems which prevents them from meeting the deadline, it's not like the game is already finished but they wanna be extra sure there's nothing wrong with it, there are patches for that. Remember Vampire The Masquerade - Bloodlines? That game had a fatal bug in one level which prevented the player from advancing with the game but after a while the patch came out, they fixed the bug and VTMB is still one of the greatest games of all time. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that there are no bug free games, there are just games with bugs that the QA department didn't find so the whole "We want to make sure the game comes out perfect." stuff might look good on the site but I for one am really waiting for someone to clarify with the HOMM community the real reasons for the delay. And that would be number two on the list, here's number three:
I'm gonna make this short since I've written quite a lot so far, so here goes: Seriously? Only five factions? Even that piece of s#%t HOMM4 had six. I hope that after they release MMH6 they start working on some expansions because, and I believe I'm not the only one, I really miss Dungeon and Fortress.
Ok, so that's it, you can start flaming and trolling now.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by EmbryoEx:
Ok, so, there's some stuff I need to say after reading all of your posts so far. First thing: digital copies of the game are not ripoffs, some people such as myself don't really care about posters and boxes and actually, I pre-ordered on Steam just for that reason, because I do not want to own stuff that have no use, and for the obvious reason, which is the main argument for my first point in this post, it costs £25 less. Yes, to all of you who want a pretty box with a poster and all of the other stuff, the exact same game (Collector's Edition / Deluxe Edition) costs almost twice the money I paid for it, which is £35. So if you think you're being ripped off with digital content, think again. Oh, and by the way, a little thing to think about: If you're not at home but desperately want to play some MMH6 at your friend's place or wherever... what do you do? (Hint: You can't do that with the physical copy of the game, but with the digital one, just download Steam, log in, download the game and play.[QUOTE]
I dont know where your getting your digital copies for cheaper than physical ones but it's not on steam. Maybe you get that option where ever your from but not in America we pay the same price for a digital copy as a physical one at least on steam. New digital games all cost the same as physical versions HoMM6, Crysis 2, Portal 2 DA2 etc etc.
This is where I have an issue not that I am being ripped of for not getting all the fancy posters and box. It is the plain fact that the company the (game producers) are making/saving tons of money off of digital users because they dont have to produce and distribute products for those users. Yet those users are getting the exact same in game content minus the additional physical features as the physical version. Do you have any idea how much money they are saving themselves by not making physical versions? You said you have experience in the gaming industry so I'll bet that you have an inkingling. But here are a few facts to consider.
1. physical products cost lots of money such as CD/DVD, manual, fancy posters and boxs, maps, comics, etc.
2. Distribution costs lots of money; such as warehouse storage and operating costs, vehicle fuel and maintainance, assembly line workers and maintainance, boxes to ship product, product labels, truck driver sallary, damaged product due to distribution
Who then is getting the profits of the 35%-60% mark-ups? Steam, the producer?
Who still has to pay the same price?
We do!
As for playing a game at a friends house and downloading steam to play it. Is your friends computer always going to be as cool as yours enough to play it? Maybe since great minds think alike right...but maybe not. Steam (digital) games are only as good as the computer that can play them. The same as physical copies.
I had no idea that in the US the physical and digital versions cost the same, here it's just £34.99 for the digital and £59.99 for the physical, but... how do you know they cost the same, because from what I know they aren't going to release any physical versions in the US? From what I looked up on Google while writing this I can see that the download price for the normal edition is $49.99 and for the deluxe edition is $54.99 which would roughly be £30 and respectively £33 so you're basically paying for your deluxe edition almost £2 less then what I paid for it. After looking up all of this stuff I no longer agree with you because the digital version of the game basically appears the have the same price in the US and in Europe so your argument just became null, your only problem is that they don't retail physical version to the US, but if they would have, it would have been pricier, my guess around $40 more so it would seem that nobody is actually saving any money on boxes, shipping and all of the other stuff you just mentioned. I hope you get to read this because after I wrote all of this I realized that this is a huge addition to my previous argument.
Ok, that's that, but I still gotta say that I definitely don't agree with your last statement regarding the portability of the game. Those are just speculations, just as i could speculate the following thing: If the syntagm "Those who are alike stick together." is true, which most of the time it is, that would mean that your friends are more likely to be from the same social category as you are which means that they are likely to have, basically, almost the the same social environment that you do, which means that they are likely to have almost the same resources that you do, which means that they are very likely to have a computer that is pretty much as good as yours... but I wouldn't like to speculate.
PS: Great minds don't think alike, they complete each other.
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First. Did you ever agree with me in the first place?Originally posted by EmbryoEx:
I had no idea that in the US the physical and digital versions cost the same, here it's just £34.99 for the digital and £59.99 for the physical, but... how do you know they cost the same, because from what I know they aren't going to release any physical versions in the US? From what I looked up on Google while writing this I can see that the download price for the normal edition is $49.99 and for the deluxe edition is $54.99 which would roughly be £30 and respectively £33 so you're basically paying for your deluxe edition almost £2 less then what I paid for it. After looking up all of this stuff I no longer agree with you because the digital version of the game basically appears the have the same price in the US and in Europe so your argument just became null, your only problem is that they don't retail physical version to the US, but if they would have, it would have been pricier, my guess around $40 more so it would seem that nobody is actually saving any money on boxes, shipping and all of the other stuff you just mentioned. I hope you get to read this because after I wrote all of this I realized that this is a huge addition to my previous argument.
Ok, that's that, but I still gotta say that I definitely don't agree with your last statement regarding the portability of the game. Those are just speculations, just as i could speculate the following thing: If the syntagm "Those who are alike stick together." is true, which most of the time it is, that would mean that your friends are more likely to be from the same social category as you are which means that they are likely to have, basically, almost the the same social environment that you do, which means that they are likely to have almost the same resources that you do, which means that they are very likely to have a computer that is pretty much as good as yours... but I wouldn't like to speculate.
PS: Great minds don't think alike, they complete each other.
Second. Im not reffering to just Heroes of Might and Magic 6. Any new game released in the states digital or retail we pay the same price and it isnt right in my eyes because none of the savings get passed on to the consumer.
Third. I am glad that in your country someone sees the point of my argument and charges you less for a digital copy than for a physical copy. There you proved my point for me in your first line.
As for not releasing the HoMM6 in retail (physical) version in the US your 100% correct.
Which is another item that ticks me off. Ubisoft goes through all this effort advertising a collectors edition bundle and we cant even get it here in the states. We can't even get the option for a regular boxed retail edition. Some people just like the assurance of a physical copy. And the great feeling of not having to connect to the internet every time to play it.
You see what happened to Playstation Network afterall. With a retail version I dont have to worry about my personal information being stolen and I know I will always have access to the game. Thank goodness I never bought anything off of their site who knows if I would have gotten all of it back.
My argument didnt become null because you argued from a hypethetical standpoint that if they released it here in the US via retail then it would be pricier...by the looks of things they will not do that so we will never know will we? Your guess is $40 more which would place the retail version around $80-$90 I dont think so nobody would buy a game for that unless it has something really special inside like a collocters set or something. Arguably the price would be between $49.99 and $59.99 for a regular edition of the game thats is the standard price for a new PC game, most of the time the lessor (unless your company is Blizzard entertainment.) Which, my point being and the whole purpose of my argument is the same price that I pay for a digital version on Steam.
These days they make portable hard drives too that I could install a game on, then all I need is my CD/DVD to play at a friends house if I am a law abidding person that is, if not then I dont even need the CD.
P.S nice point on your end quote, I agree.
Somebody know how to get beta key if I make preorder in Steam?
Beta starts tomorrow and there is now any updates on this as I know.
You will receive more information tomorrow. It's a whole lot of information about the beta on the main page.
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