Cultural/Religious Diversity - double edged sword? | Forums

[roybaty]

Clearly the human race can't deal with diversity, perhaps one way of thought totally crushing all others is the only way to maintain stability.

Me being agnostic, I of course say may beliefs (or lack thereof) should be the one way. But we don't have enough power or will to crush everything else.

It's a simplistic way to think admittedly people always bicker over difference and the bickering turns into a street fight, into a riot, into terrorism, civil war...etc.

But then again a culturally homogeneous society would eventually breakdown with time and fracture...again...rinse...repeat.

I dunno, I think too much...being a thinking man sucks sometimes.

Back to posting female bodybuilders in the Babes thread

[Airmail109]

Originally posted by roybaty:
I wonder

I used to be a bleeding heart liberal, but I'm asking the same question.

It's hard as sometimes various cultures have managed to co-exist peacefully. Example the middle east before a small minority started messing with things. Real shame.

[roybaty]

I used to be conservative...but the "system" actually helped me as a kid, go figure.

I do consider myself a liberal with common sense though.

[foxyboy1964]

Trade is usually the common ground that helps different groups get along. But the current world situation is pushing that theory to it's limits.

It is a real shame. When you think of the technology that is available and how it could improve everyone's lot. You've got to wonder if the human race is ever going to learn.

[SeaFireLIV]

How life changes people, eh?

I started off as a wide-eyed student going to college. i got sucked into all that Liberal jazz about freedom for everything, all the `isms` to the point of ridiculous until I couldn`t go to the toilet without wondering if I was breaking some `ism` (usually feminism).

Then I went to work, in the REAL world. i got married in the REAL world.

I`m no longer a `liberal` in the true sense of the word. Sometimes I shock myself with what I say about certain issues. I`m definitely a more right of centre than I ever was. It`s not that I want to be, it`s simply that REALITY tells the truth and it`s better to live the truth and understand our differences than live a lie and try to be one homogenous blob. Yes, we must get along, because contiunous war is ruinous for everyone, but we must not allow stupidty for the sake of stuff like political correctness get in the way.

I was talking to my m8s and we actually came to the conclusion after a long talk over some beers that the people actually need a Benevolent dictater, not Democracy, which is basically an illusion anyway. That was the conclusion...

Shocking, eh?



Sigh.. the SeafireLIV of 16 years ago would be shocked by the seafireLIV of today. It`s funny, artists are supposed to be more Liberal (and I am in my art), but not in a lot of my views.

But the SeafireLIV of today is a lot more realistic and understands the truth of Human beings far better than he used to.

[Low_Flyer_MkIX]

Same here Seafire - I often catch myself saying "Did I just say that?" recently. Years ago I'd have been manning the barricades, or at least distributing pamphlets.

[roybaty]

A dictatorial system can be horrific as well, you may a a benevolent one for a time, but after them who? You could be stuck with a tyrant for decades destroying all their predecessor had done. This would again create decent, instability, war, etc.

[SeaFireLIV]

Originally posted by roybaty:
A dictatorial system can be horrific as well, you may a a benevolent one for a time, but after them who? You could be stuck with a tyrant for decades destroying all their predecessor had done. This would again create declension, instability, war, etc.

Of course, it`s a 2-edged sword. You could put laws in place saying that each subsequent dicatater would have to keep to basic rules (no genocide, no taking advantage of people for personal gain etc), only make the rules that will allow people to get on with their lives without constant conflict. But of course, a new dictater could simply change the rules.

Of course, a lot of people would fight a benevolent dictater too, simply because they don`t like their `freedoms` being curtailed, even if it was good for them. This means, more soldiers, more police, more harsh punishments.

There`s simply no easy answer. And that`s why this sort of thing would need someone prepared to make the harsh stands that would be necessary.

If that`s not acceptable, then we must live with the chaotic nature of `freedom` (I put freedom in quotation marks cos there`s really no such thing in Humanity, true freedom = Total Chaos) and hope mankind survives it and we don`t end up with something worse in the long run.


No easy answer, except perhaps... religion?

Christianity, for example is NOT a democracy. It understands that there must be rules and order. God is, in fact, a dictater... a Benevolent dictater we were talking about. Perhaps that`s the way?

Interesting...

[foxyboy1964]

I think we're all pretty liberal until it's our way of life that's under threat. I honestly can't tell if it's just me getting older or if things in Britain really are changing drastically.

Up until about ten years ago I thought the country was fine the way it was. Sure, there were some things that could be improved but on the whole it was fine. I certainly wouldn't have thought about leaving. Now, I'm seriously thinking about emigration.

[HotelBushranger]

No easy answer, except perhaps... religion?

No.