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[Mike447a]

ok!

Me, which worries me more, these times, it is the total number of creatures in the game.

Now all knows there will be only 6 factions...


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in Heroes 3 we had:

8 factions on 7 levels = 56 creatures
+ 6 neutrals (4elem and 2golem)

then armageddon blade brought...
1 faction (including 4 elem already) thus 3 creatures moreover
+ 13 neutral creatures

(Shadow of Death did not bring anything)

thus we had: 56+6+3+13 = 78 different creatures
(63x2 upgrades + 15 neutrals = 131 total including the upgrades)

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in Heroes 4 we had:

6 factions on 4 levels with doubles choice (no upgrade - only choices between type)
6 X 4 X 2 = 48 creatures
and we had 19 neutral creatures

for a total of... 67 creatures

The Gathering Storm brought 4 creatures
and Winds of War brought 3 creatures

74 creatures total (including the 2 expansions)

N.B. and Heroes 4 were liked also very little.



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in Heroes 5 how much ????


6 factions (Now everyone knows that there will be only 6)
6 x ??? 4 or 5 ??? (if there are 4 or 5 levels of creatures...)

that will make only 24 to 30 creatures total!


how much you imagine there will be "neutral" creatures??
6? (pessimist) 12?? (optimist)

30 to 42 different creatures



...


let us imagine that there are upgrades for each one (this thing is not sure still at 100%!!)

that gives of 54 (24x2+6) to 72 (30x2+12) creatures.


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thus...


***** 78 for H3 / 74 for H4 / 30-42 for H5 ***** - differents


***** 131 for H3 / 74 for H4 / 54-72 for H5 ***** - total including upgrades

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that frightens me terribly

I hope enormously that there will not be ONLY 4 or 5 levels...
that there will be MORE THAN ten neutrals....
that the upgrades will be there....

I hope that Ubi won't cut in this aspect of the play....
to save much time to do only ... very few creatures.

I really hope that you'll give us many, many creatures to deal with !!!

your opinion????

[Mike447a]

ok!

Me, which worries me more, these times, it is the total number of creatures in the game.

Now all knows there will be only 6 factions...


---------------------------

in Heroes 3 we had:

8 factions on 7 levels = 56 creatures
+ 6 neutrals (4elem and 2golem)

then armageddon blade brought...
1 faction (including 4 elem already) thus 3 creatures moreover
+ 13 neutral creatures

(Shadow of Death did not bring anything)

thus we had: 56+6+3+13 = 78 different creatures
(63x2 upgrades + 15 neutrals = 131 total including the upgrades)

---------------------------

---------------------------


in Heroes 4 we had:

6 factions on 4 levels with doubles choice (no upgrade - only choices between type)
6 X 4 X 2 = 48 creatures
and we had 19 neutral creatures

for a total of... 67 creatures

The Gathering Storm brought 4 creatures
and Winds of War brought 3 creatures

74 creatures total (including the 2 expansions)

N.B. and Heroes 4 were liked also very little.



---------------------------

---------------------------

in Heroes 5 how much ????


6 factions (Now everyone knows that there will be only 6)
6 x ??? 4 or 5 ??? (if there are 4 or 5 levels of creatures...)

that will make only 24 to 30 creatures total!


how much you imagine there will be "neutral" creatures??
6? (pessimist) 12?? (optimist)

30 to 42 different creatures



...


let us imagine that there are upgrades for each one (this thing is not sure still at 100%!!)

that gives of 54 (24x2+6) to 72 (30x2+12) creatures.


----------------------------

thus...


***** 78 for H3 / 74 for H4 / 30-42 for H5 ***** - differents


***** 131 for H3 / 74 for H4 / 54-72 for H5 ***** - total including upgrades

----------------------------

...


that frightens me terribly

I hope enormously that there will not be ONLY 4 or 5 levels...
that there will be MORE THAN ten neutrals....
that the upgrades will be there....

I hope that Ubi won't cut in this aspect of the play....
to save much time to do only ... very few creatures.

I really hope that you'll give us many, many creatures to deal with !!!

your opinion????

[NECRO95]

I think they might have mentioned 6 to 7 level for creatures per factions, some with upgrades, others without. and some creatures can be developed at the expense of others (like in IV).... I think...

[Mike447a]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NECRO95:
I think they might have mentioned 6 to 7 level for creatures per factions, some with upgrades, others without. and some creatures can be developed at the expense of others (like in IV).... I think... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

can you give me a link ??
it's been a long time ?? (we know that things can change with time...)

[UndeadDontDie]

Well, I don't really care about the total number of creatures, I do care about the number of units available at the same time in each castle *cough* 7 is a lucky number *cough* and the number of castle types available *cough* 8 is magic *cough*.
And I care about developing creatures instead of others, like in IV (AKA, I hate it).

[Captain_Stifu]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UndeadDontDie:
Well, I don't really care about the total number of creatures, I do care about the number of units available at the same time in each castle *cough* 7 is a lucky number *cough* and the number of castle types available *cough* 8 is magic *cough*.
And I care about developing creatures instead of others, like in IV (AKA, I hate it). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Then you can die happy playing Heroes III... *rolls eyes*

Mike447a: You actually made posts without saying "hihihi" ? Good job.

[Mike447a]

no more opinions ???

[UndeadDontDie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Captain_Stifu:
Then you can die happy playing Heroes III... *rolls eyes* <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, I don't intend to play HoMM III on my deathbed, so that is unlikely, and I probably will play V (unless they really butcher it), I just think that the "perfect formula" for unit and faction amounts was already discovered.
8 factions was enough to offer diversity without overwhelming the player, and allowed symmetry between sides.
7 units per faction is a good number as well because it is exactly sufficient to give the player the sense of managing and army without (again) overwhelming him with MM.
Personaly, the 6 factions - 5 units "formula" of IV had me feeling depraved of diversity.
And you can all stop your "HoMM III Fanboy!1!!1" flaming, which is becoming much of a trend (like the "HoMM IV Fanboy!1!!1" flaming), Im just sharing my opinion for other people and mainly the devs to consider so they can work on a better game.
There is a wealth of knowledge within the community, you need to listen to all of it, and not attempt to silence it.

[sakredfire]

seven levels, 8 factions, 'nuff said. Any more and the heroes start to get corny/unoriginal. Any less, and I won't be able to see an angelic faction. Thrones, seraphim, cherubim, watchers...

[loonyjoe]

six levels at least!!! please!!!!
i really would like to see 7 levels (but don't think any single more is really necessary...) but 6 is imho a must-be!