I am very close to the end and have on one occation entered the keep. Was disturbed and had to leave. I have retried many times with the snake but am not able to be at the keep door probably not waiting long enough ( sometimes as long as 5 minutes) I also tryed ,since I saw the keep symbol 4 small circles and 1 large one and that also does not work. Someone please help me get out of the mess I got myself into. Thank You in advance Gene
I am not too certain about your problem because you are talking about two different things that can only be solve one "after" the other.
1- the snake is used to get to to/inside a cave.
If you drawing was accepted by the Bahro, you will get a new symbold on the pedestal below. From there you will be able to link to the main entrance bubble and be able to make a run for the cave. (after the door opens)From the bert jamin walkthrough...
Exit the linking bubble and walk away to let the Bahro do his job once more. Re-enter the linking bubble and press the newly appeared sign on the pedestal to get linked back on top of the lab. Take the Slate from the pedestal. Walk towards the huge lens. Make sure to stand in front of the huge lens. Save your game here!!! Use the Slate to draw the snake symbol. Drop the Slate on the floor.
2-Edited with my images:Exit the linking bubble and go to the left. Walk all the way to the end of the beach. Turn to the left and enter the cave to the other side of the island. Walk all the way to the end. Turn to the left and walk forward until you are standing on the shore in front of the distant island. Cross the water and stand in front of the rock that is blocking your path. Wait until the rock collapses and than quickly step into the room.
Keep in mind that this only happens once. If you are too late and the rock/door re-appears before you enter the room, you have to restore the game you just saved and try again.
Enter this new linking bubble and make a note of the Bahro sign on top of the pedestal. (Big circle with 4 small ones) Press the bottom sign on the pedestal to get linked back into the first linking bubble. Take the Slate from the pedestal and make a drawing of the newly discovered Bahro sign.
Drop the Slate on the ground and exit the linking bubble. Turn to the right once more and re-enter the linking bubble. Press the newly appeared sign on the right side of the pedestal to get linked to The Keep once more. You have another meeting with Esher.
Two spoiler images in case the Bahro did not like your drawings proportions...¨
a) Noloben snake:
http://i56.tinypic.com/33ems1j.jpg
b) Noloben Keep:
http://i55.tinypic.com/17ff9x.jpg
My problem is that the bahro will not accept my snake in the slate. My snake that you were so kind to furnish a link, looks pretty much alike.I do have a few small kinks. It may be that I have not found the secret to draw in other than straight line increments other than curves. I appreciate your comments and hints. Gene
As to the earlier comment about 2 different problems I was aware but did not make myself clear. I am aware that the snake symbol is the key to keep weight on the tree long enough to get to the rock door. On the occation of my getting past the rock door I drew the snake while standing on the tree, dropped the slate and made it to the rock door with plenty of time.while there I saw the 4 small circles and 1 large circle. I was trying to make a slate with the circles but was not able to get any results. Gene
Your procedure is not clear to me.
Note that the title for your subject is "Noloben snake".
If your were able to go on top of Esher's lab and drop the slate with the snake symbol and then link to the main entrance bubble, run to the front of the door and wait for the door to open, you did ok.
If the door will not open, there are two possible causes.
1- you did not get in front of the door fast enough.
2- The Bahro did not like your drawing and you will have to replay the snake drawing (with your saved game) until the Bahro accepts your drawing. (or possibly a drawing done by one of your family's member or by a friend)
If you were able to get into the cave and see the Keep symbol (big circle + 4 small ones), you were supposed to link back to the main entrance bubble, get the slate brought back by the Bahro and try to get the Keep symbol right, drop it inside the bubble, back off a good distance and when the Bahro is gone, check to see if he gave you the new Keep symbol. (on the pedestal)
If you have a problem with the keep symbol try to get help from somebody who is good at drawing.
By the way, if you watch the Bahro when he checks your slate and if you see him scratching his head, it means he does not recognize your drawing.
nanoukmetal
I have been fighting this snake drawing it
seems for ever. My last project is download your snake file, put it in photoshop to get it to the right size. Then checked flaws in the slate's your's and mine. I drew a centerline and some other marks. Next I uses Saran paper transfer the marks and outlined the snake. I then taped the saran to tie monoter frame.I then used the sketch and followed the Saran wrap . It looked really good but it still does not work Help if you can ..Gene
At this time, I am almost out of ideas.
The only thing that comes to mind is...
Since you have already seen the Keep symbol (big circle plus the four small ones), forget about the "snake" and link to the main entrance bubble with the slate and..... draw the Keep symbol.
The Bahro must be aware that you have seen it and does not want to be taken for a fool.
Btw, the game is far from being perfect and lots of people had problem(s) with the drawings on the slates.
Edited by me.
I just replayed that section without using the snake symbol and it worked fine.
(I also replayed with the snake and had no problem)
Possibility: your game installation could be corrupted.
Edit # 2:
a) After dropping the slate on the tree symbol on the floor, did you go down all the way to the pedestal in the lower room to make your link to the outside main bubble ?
b) Are you certain that you did close all the rotating doors that gave you access to the lab ?
(The Bahro really hate those snakes rooming around over there)(snakes can climb ladders !)
c) Another spoiler image for a snake.
The Birt Jamin snake from his walktrough is a bit more different than mine...
http://www.gamesover.com/Myst_5/myst5_24.jpg
nanoukmetal
I have completed Myst 5. After fighting the snake symbol for a week and talking to you, I uninstalled and reinstalled and what a difference. Orignally as I attempted to draw wich resulted in straight line incroments. New installation I could draw the whole snake at one time. There was surely something wring wrong with the first install. Thank You for all the help! Gene
Thank you for the feedback Gener1.
It has been fun helping you.
Cheers,
Nanouk
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