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  1. 11-14-2009, 11:17 AM #1
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    Ok, I'm about ready to hang myself with a cat5 cable! Here's whats up, I have an Asus router flashed with DD-WRT set up as an ethernet bridge. It connects to the xbox by cat5 and wirelessly to my D-link gamerlounge router. Now the Xbox has internet access, my pc has internet access (wireless usb adapter), I can access the DD-WRT interface from the pc, but for some reason I cannot ping the Xbox, I CANNOT get media center to see the extender. Anyone, please help, I can give any details needed as to ip's, gateways, etc., just let me know what you need to know. Any and all suggestions WILL be attempted.

    Thanks in advance!
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  2. 11-15-2009, 03:03 AM #2
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    For starters, tell us what (internal) IP ranges are being used.
    I suspect the DD-WRT is using a different range than the D-link router, and you need to setup a route between them, or change one IP range so all devices are on the same subnet.
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  3. 11-15-2009, 07:22 AM #3
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    Ok, DD-WRT is set to IP 192.168.0.105 which is within the range of the d-link, the sunbet mask (255.255.255.0) and default gateway (192.168.0.1) is set to match the d-link. I've even placed the xbox in the dmz on the DD-WRT so that it's ip (192.168.0.151) is forwarded directly to the D-link. I can ping the DD-WRT (195.168.0.105) but not the xbox (192.168.0.151). No firewall or filtering should be on on the DD-WRT. The Xbox can see the internet just fine. I've reached the limit of my networking knowledge and I have no idea whats wrong.
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  4. 11-15-2009, 09:49 AM #4
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    Does that Xbox have a firewall?

    Your current setup looks fine to me, it should work...

    What does a tracert to the xbox show?
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  5. 11-16-2009, 06:37 AM #5
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    Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
    Ok, DD-WRT is set to IP 192.168.0.105 which is within the range of the d-link, the sunbet mask (255.255.255.0) and default gateway (192.168.0.1) is set to match the d-link. I've even placed the xbox in the dmz on the DD-WRT so that it's ip (192.168.0.151) is forwarded directly to the D-link. I can ping the DD-WRT (195.168.0.105) but not the xbox (192.168.0.151). No firewall or filtering should be on on the DD-WRT. The Xbox can see the internet just fine. I've reached the limit of my networking knowledge and I have no idea whats wrong.
    I believe your net mask for that IP range should be 255.255.0.0, though I don't think that's the problem.

    Do you get a ping response from the xbox without using the DD-WRT? that is, through a direct connection?
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  6. 11-16-2009, 08:04 AM #6
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    Haven't tried a direct connection, Xbox is in living room, D-link and modem are in another room, and my pc is in the bedroom. I'll add that to the list of things to try, should try that first cause if I can't ping it connected directly to the dlink then we have other issues beside fooling with my ethernet bridge setup on the DD-WRT. I'll run a tracrt when I get home, then move the xbox to the dlink and try ping from there, will post results tonight.
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  7. 11-16-2009, 06:53 PM #7
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    Ok, this sucks. Connected the xbox directly to my main router through ethernet, got a connection to the internet from the xbox, still cannot ping the thing! In all the troubleshooting for connecting the xbox to a pc through mediacenter the first thing they tell you is to try to ping it, so I'm guessing I'm supposed to be able to ping the bloody thing. Tracert comes up all *** for every hop.
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  8. 11-16-2009, 07:58 PM #8
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    You should first make sure ALL devices are in the same range.

    192.168.xxx.xxx is another range than 195.xxx.xxx.xxx
    Consider using one of the routers as a switch.
    Just connect the incoming line to a LAN port, and other devices to the other LAN ports. Switch off the DHCP server function on the switch device.
    Working with a switch is MUCH less complex than a router.
    No more port forwarding headaches etc.
    The first thing I always do is make a little sketch of all devices on the network and scribble their IP next to them.
    I use 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.254 for routers/switches, 192.168.0.1x for NAS devices, 192.168.0.1xx for computers.


    Make sure you only have one device enabled as DHCP server.

    If I can I will always try to give all devices a static IP address.
    Don forget to switch off the security on the routers either. Firewall is very often on by default.
    Once you think you have everything configured right, switch all devices off. Then switch on your modem/router and wait until it has build up connection. proceed with starting up the main computer, second, etc. Wait at least until the device has a connection, then proceed starting up the next device.
    If there is a VOIP phone involved it can take up to 20 minutes before it works correct.
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  9. 11-16-2009, 09:38 PM #9
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    I'm with Max...
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  10. 11-17-2009, 04:58 AM #10
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    I've done all that, I got new info, apparently the xbox will reject ping requests by default, I don't know why the hell the xbox support site would ask you to try to ping it as a troubleshooting step if xbox rejects ICMP, freakin MS, lol. Well, still cannot get windows media center to connect to the xbox.
    "The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.[Europe], under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep. If once [the people] become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress, and Assemblies, judges and governors shall all become wolves. " - Thomas Jefferson
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