The (Flak) gun comes back to the u-boat (Sockos influence ?) | Forums

[Celeon999]

Well, maybe ...


Ive just read about an study suggesting to install an RMK 30mm recoiless gun into a retractable mast of the type 212 u-boats.

Somehow i sense Socko's handwriting on that one.

It is also mentioned in this wikipedia article

Mause RMK30 gun

Here is pic of the gun. Normally it is tank weapon



Additionaly ive found a video that shows the first test of the Iris-T missile.

The seeker you see on this missile will be used for the IDAS AA missile that is in development for the type 212.

It functions just like an human eye.

Imagine you sit in an anti-submarine helicopter or airplane and suddenly this baby comes out of the waves and starts...........

looking for you


It will have an laser optical wire just like torpedoes have which enable the operator aboard the u-boat to guide the missile into its target if required.


Iris-T @ wikipedia

Iris-T missile test video



I would'nt be surprised if the IDAS version has a single.......BRASS BUTTON EYE




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[Celeon999]

Well, maybe ...


Ive just read about an study suggesting to install an RMK 30mm recoiless gun into a retractable mast of the type 212 u-boats.

Somehow i sense Socko's handwriting on that one.

It is also mentioned in this wikipedia article

Mause RMK30 gun

Here is pic of the gun. Normally it is tank weapon



Additionaly ive found a video that shows the first test of the Iris-T missile.

The seeker you see on this missile will be used for the IDAS AA missile that is in development for the type 212.

It functions just like an human eye.

Imagine you sit in an anti-submarine helicopter or airplane and suddenly this baby comes out of the waves and starts...........

looking for you


It will have an laser optical wire just like torpedoes have which enable the operator aboard the u-boat to guide the missile into its target if required.


Iris-T @ wikipedia

Iris-T missile test video



I would'nt be surprised if the IDAS version has a single.......BRASS BUTTON EYE




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[GoldenEagle8]

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[Celeon999]

I forgot the article for the IDAS system

IDAS


I wonder who those "other interested countries navy's " are....

Hmmmm..
North Korea , Iran, Cuba.....Venezuela ? <div class="ev_tpc_signature">

[klcarroll]

Yup, ??.I see a definite Socko influence! Just imagine: ?..300 ?warning shots? per minute, ?..and recoilless too!!!

You just know that Socko?s elastic pulled tight when he heard about that one!

??.And that IDAS system!!!! I can just imagine that installed in tube 3 of my TypeIID! (If you listen, you can probably hear Socko cheering in the background.) What a fantastic package; ??Like they would say in Brooklyn; ?Yo, ?.***hole, ?.B-24??? ??.I got your B-24 right HERE!?

[Psychfilm]

Yeah Socko would not consider the enemy warned until they were on the bottom. <div class="ev_tpc_signature">

"There are three types of torpedo personnel in the Kriegsmarine; those who can count and those who can't."

[geoffwessex]

In the early 1970s, the UK developed a submarine-launched surface to air missile system, and fitted it in one submarine, the Aeneas. Named the 'Blowpipe', it was based on the successful Rapier ground to air system and it certainly worked.

However, it brought into question the reasoning behind a submarine raising a mast, giving its position away, to launch a couple of missiles, a maximum of four. Even if they hit, there would probably be one more aircraft that witnessed the event and was then able to pinpoint the submarine's position exactly. Either that or the boat is in a real 'backs to the wall' situation and unable to shake off its pursuers - shallow water or unable to go deep.

At least these Iris missiles look as if a hit is pretty much guaranteed, but how many missiles can be fitted 'ready to launch' on top of a mast - probably less than the number of helo's looking for the boat!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Geoff Wessex, Ontario

[Celeon999]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by geoffwessex:
In the early 1970s, the UK developed a submarine-launched surface to air missile system, and fitted it in one submarine, the Aeneas. Named the 'Blowpipe', it was based on the successful Rapier ground to air system and it certainly worked.

However, it brought into question the reasoning behind a submarine raising a mast, giving its position away, to launch a couple of missiles, a maximum of four. Even if they hit, there would probably be one more aircraft that witnessed the event and was then able to pinpoint the submarine's position exactly. Either that or the boat is in a real 'backs to the wall' situation and unable to shake off its pursuers - shallow water or unable to go deep.

At least these Iris missiles look as if a hit is pretty much guaranteed, but how many missiles can be fitted 'ready to launch' on top of a mast - probably less than the number of helo's looking for the boat! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


The missiles arent fired from a mast.

They are fired from containers (4 missiles per container) out of the normal torpedo tubes.

All six tubes armed with these containers means 24 missiles. (Will propably never happen) Thats far more than enough

They travel some distance submerged then they turn vertical and move to the surface.

Just like in this pic here

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[geoffwessex]

OK - in that case, I'm impressed! <div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Geoff Wessex, Ontario

[Celeon999]

Well its still some time to 2009.

I just hope nodoby comes up with the old "Ohhh thats too expensive" story <div class="ev_tpc_signature">