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[raaaid]

i remember 10 years ago deep blue beat kasparov so now...

though im not sure because there are more things to chess than memory

btw do you know of a good free place to play online?

[raaaid]

i remember 10 years ago deep blue beat kasparov so now...

though im not sure because there are more things to chess than memory

btw do you know of a good free place to play online?

[Breeze147]

One of the most boring concepts I could possibly imagine: Online chess.

Only a matter of time before some kid hacks the code and creates an invincible Knight.

[tagTaken2]

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[Outlaw---]

Deep Blue did not "play" chess. All it did was play every possible combination of moves (based on the position of the game pieces after the human player's move) and select the move that most often led to a win.

It was simply statistics.

--Outlaw.

[SeaFireLIV]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Outlaw---:
Deep Blue did not "play" chess. All it did was play every possible combination of moves (based on the position of the game pieces after the human player's move) and select the move that most often led to a win.

It was simply statistics.

--Outlaw. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And this explains why computer AI can beat Humans at chess, but still have problems getting through doorways!

[raaaid]

yes but in chess there are trillions posibilities no pc can handle that yet

[mortoma]

I don't think it 10 years ago, more like 6 or so.

[mortoma]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
yes but in chess there are trillions posibilities no pc can handle that yet </div></BLOCKQUOTE>In the entire game maybe, but after any one move there are often less than ten moves possible for the next players move. Usually more like 50 average. Could be a lot more depends on position and number of pieces on the board. What you are really thinking is that there are a lot of different games possibilites ( no two games the same ).

And yes, there are trillions of different games possible. But not necessarily "trillions" of moves available when it's your or the opponents turn to move each and every time. I can't imagine there being much more than about 100 moves possible for anyone's turn at any time, at any point, in any game.

Have you ever played the game? I have played thousands of chess games in my life going back to six years old. If you include obvious moves that are a good idea, there are often not many moves at all. There can be a lot of stupid moves, but computers and people ( if they are good ) eliminate them immediately. I'm not that great as my chess rating is about 1700 right now. But I enjoy it so I play it.

[VW-IceFire]

AI is pretty good at something like chess. Relatively small number of variables and the ability to simply program in all of the possible positions, moves, counter moves, and so forth. Its really not AI so much as it is number crunching with limited AI to make a decision on how best to proceed forward. Its a technological accomplishment but it really represents very little in terms of human-like AI.

Even with all of the advantages programmed into it...Kasparov didn't loose every game.