M1911 good enough for LAPD SWAT but not RvS? | Forums

[XyZspineZyX]

OK, so the LAPD SWAT recently decided to purchase Kimber Custom 2 pistols. Interesting by itself since almost every other police department favors pistols with higher magazine capacity and a more forgiving caliber.

Now what's really hard to understand is that LAPD SWAT has used 1911's in various variants since the very beginning in the 60's. Even confiscated guns found their way into the hands of a SWAT officer.

Doesn't make much sense to me that the technical advisor who supposedly worked for LAPD SWAT doesn't bring his very own duty weapon into the game.

What's up with that?

[XyZspineZyX]

OK, so the LAPD SWAT recently decided to purchase Kimber Custom 2 pistols. Interesting by itself since almost every other police department favors pistols with higher magazine capacity and a more forgiving caliber.

Now what's really hard to understand is that LAPD SWAT has used 1911's in various variants since the very beginning in the 60's. Even confiscated guns found their way into the hands of a SWAT officer.

Doesn't make much sense to me that the technical advisor who supposedly worked for LAPD SWAT doesn't bring his very own duty weapon into the game.

What's up with that?

[XyZspineZyX]

I was thinking about the same thing,all these years the 1911 has been used by so many (what do you call them,departments?) departments and still it isnt in the game.
It must be one of the most used handguns in the world am i right?
Police use it Army Use(d) it and other ops but still its not in the game i dont see why it shouldnt be...
hope UBI releases a SDK soon so people can start making guns for the game

Sorry about my english, it's not my first language..

[XyZspineZyX]

Actually, over 60% of the world uses glocks now.

[XyZspineZyX]

Cango_fett wrote:
- Actually, over 60% of the world uses glocks now.
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I doubt that. Maybe you could say that 60% of police pistols are 9mm's, but that's about it.

Sigarms, Glock, and Beretta have probably equal percentages in the western world.

You also have to bare in mind that some countries have a higher diversity than others, based on the organization of their law enforcement agencies.

In the US, each and every department (city) can make their own decisions ranging from their duty weapon to the color of their cruisers. That's very different from a country like Germany where decisions are made on a per-state or per-county level.

[XyZspineZyX]

Glock has around 75% of the Law Enforcement market in North America., but a lot of agencies are starting to look elsewhere because Glock has let it's quality slip because of it's monopoly

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[XyZspineZyX]

I think that those in MEUSOC use modified 1911's as well.

[XyZspineZyX]

i would atleast love to see the m1911 in RvS no matter how many percent of the law enforcements use other weapons..
the looks of one is really nice probably the best looking handgun.

i just want it for RvS i dont care how many or who uses it..

[XyZspineZyX]

75% of the US market is another number that's way too high. If you watch "Cops" on TV every now and then, you'll see that more than 25% use other pistols.

The reason most cops retired both revolvers and 1911 is the immense size with very limited magazine capacity. Also, a DAO pistol requires less training and is considered safer.

Those are reasons that don't matter for SWAT or SpecOps though. Besides having sufficient training, for them the pistol is really just a secondary weapon, with the primary being their M4, M14, MP5 or whatever else. The only reason for them to ever use their pistol is either running out of ammo for their primary, or being in so confined spaces that an SMG or carbine isn't suitable at all.

The average cop is using his pistol as his primary weapon. If he's lucky he'll have some sort of carbine or shotgun in the trunk, but it's not something he'd use for a normal arrest.

[XyZspineZyX]

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0006/harkavy.php

This is from 2000 and I'm talking about North Amercia. Pretty much every LE agency in Canada carry the glock, except for the RCMP which carry 9mm S&W. It probably has gone up in the last 3 years. Glock is the gun for cops these days

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