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Halliburton has wider Iraq role
Army letter says oil driller unit got distribution rights in noncompetitive oil well fire contract.
May 7, 2003: 10:44 AM EDT
WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Army Corps of Engineers has said a contract awarded without competition to a subsidiary of Halliburton Co. basically gives the company the power to run all phases of Iraq's oil industry.
U.S. Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), who asked for more details on the Halliburton contract, said, "It now appears ... that the contract with Halliburton -- a company with close ties to the administration -- can include 'operation' of Iraqi oil fields and 'distribution' of Iraqi oil."
Officials previously had said the multimillion-dollar contract only dealt with putting out oil well fires and performing emergency repairs as needed.
But responding to Waxman, Lt. Gen. Robert Flowers of the U.S. Army Chief of Engineers said the company would: put out oil well fires and assess the facilities; clean up oil spills or other environmental dangers at the sites; repair or reconstruct damaged infrastructure; operate facilities; and distribute products.
The awarding of the contract in March prompted some lawmakers, including Waxman, to question whether the administration's deep ties with Halliburton helped secure the contract -- charges the White House has denied.
And the Army has promised it will eventually issue a new contract, subject to an open bidding process, for longer-term work in Iraq. That may be why Halliburton's competitors haven't joined the chorus of criticism about the contract; they're likely hoping for a piece of the action.
Vice President **** Cheney was CEO of Halliburton from 1995-2000. Cheney sold all his shares of Halliburton during the presidential election of 2000, and he has promised to give to charity any profit from Halliburton stock options he still owns. He is still paid a set amount by Halliburton every year, but he's guaranteed that money even if Halliburton goes bankrupt.
"[Cheney] has nothing at all to do with awarding these contracts, the bidding process or the current work orders," a Cheney spokeswoman said.
Waxman had written Flowers seeking answers as to why the contract has "no set time limit and no dollar limit and is apparently structured in such a way as to encourage the contractor to increase its costs and, consequently, the costs to the taxpayer." Waxman has said the contract to Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR) could be worth up to $7 billion over two years.
In his response, Flowers said that sum was based on the "worst scenario" that a large proportion of Iraq's 1,500 wells would be set ablaze, and that there would be "massive intentional oil spills and pollution resulting from the fires." It turned out only a few oil wells were set ablaze during the war.
Flowers said "task orders are placed only for work that is required in the near term."
"For each order, the government establishes the scope of work and estimated cost. The scope of work is presented to the contractor, who prepares its technical and cost proposal for accomplishing the work," wrote Flowers.
He did not give an overall dollar amount on the contract.
Halliburton has said accusations that it received preferential treatment were off-base. It has said KBR is the only contractor that could implement the complex contingency plan.
In a March press release, Halliburton said once the oil well fires were put out, it would "provide for the continuity of operations of the Iraqi oil infrastructure."
This article can be found at your usual shamelessly liberal web site:
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/07/news..._con/index.htm
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Halliburton has wider Iraq role
Army letter says oil driller unit got distribution rights in noncompetitive oil well fire contract.
May 7, 2003: 10:44 AM EDT
WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Army Corps of Engineers has said a contract awarded without competition to a subsidiary of Halliburton Co. basically gives the company the power to run all phases of Iraq's oil industry.
U.S. Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), who asked for more details on the Halliburton contract, said, "It now appears ... that the contract with Halliburton -- a company with close ties to the administration -- can include 'operation' of Iraqi oil fields and 'distribution' of Iraqi oil."
Officials previously had said the multimillion-dollar contract only dealt with putting out oil well fires and performing emergency repairs as needed.
But responding to Waxman, Lt. Gen. Robert Flowers of the U.S. Army Chief of Engineers said the company would: put out oil well fires and assess the facilities; clean up oil spills or other environmental dangers at the sites; repair or reconstruct damaged infrastructure; operate facilities; and distribute products.
The awarding of the contract in March prompted some lawmakers, including Waxman, to question whether the administration's deep ties with Halliburton helped secure the contract -- charges the White House has denied.
And the Army has promised it will eventually issue a new contract, subject to an open bidding process, for longer-term work in Iraq. That may be why Halliburton's competitors haven't joined the chorus of criticism about the contract; they're likely hoping for a piece of the action.
Vice President **** Cheney was CEO of Halliburton from 1995-2000. Cheney sold all his shares of Halliburton during the presidential election of 2000, and he has promised to give to charity any profit from Halliburton stock options he still owns. He is still paid a set amount by Halliburton every year, but he's guaranteed that money even if Halliburton goes bankrupt.
"[Cheney] has nothing at all to do with awarding these contracts, the bidding process or the current work orders," a Cheney spokeswoman said.
Waxman had written Flowers seeking answers as to why the contract has "no set time limit and no dollar limit and is apparently structured in such a way as to encourage the contractor to increase its costs and, consequently, the costs to the taxpayer." Waxman has said the contract to Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR) could be worth up to $7 billion over two years.
In his response, Flowers said that sum was based on the "worst scenario" that a large proportion of Iraq's 1,500 wells would be set ablaze, and that there would be "massive intentional oil spills and pollution resulting from the fires." It turned out only a few oil wells were set ablaze during the war.
Flowers said "task orders are placed only for work that is required in the near term."
"For each order, the government establishes the scope of work and estimated cost. The scope of work is presented to the contractor, who prepares its technical and cost proposal for accomplishing the work," wrote Flowers.
He did not give an overall dollar amount on the contract.
Halliburton has said accusations that it received preferential treatment were off-base. It has said KBR is the only contractor that could implement the complex contingency plan.
In a March press release, Halliburton said once the oil well fires were put out, it would "provide for the continuity of operations of the Iraqi oil infrastructure."
This article can be found at your usual shamelessly liberal web site:
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/07/news..._con/index.htm
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Let's also bear in mind that there are two giants here in the field - Halliburton and Schlumberger. The latter is a French company. And since the current adminstration is not so happy with France, Schlumberger was completely cut out.
It is not the same to talk of bulls as it is to be in the bullring.
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MDS_Geist wrote:
- Let's also bear in mind that there are two giants
- here in the field - Halliburton and Schlumberger.
- The latter is a French company. And since the
- current adminstration is not so happy with France,
- Schlumberger was completely cut out.
Halliburton is probably the best company to do the job.
It only shows what this war was all about.
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Ah, I see we are making associations again, I like associations [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif[/img] Can I play?
Statistics show that over 80% of criminals confined in a prison have tattoos. So I guess that concludes that tattoos cause crime! *gasp* we better ban tattoos!
OK, if the stupid (but technically true statistically) joke doesn't bare a resemblance to the current situation, let me explain.
Even if this article is completely 100% inclusive and true, which the fact that Geist already has more information on it in his mind, shows that it isn't completely, but even if it is, this does not prove in any way that it was the motivation for the war.
This could simply be a little side benefit, or a result of the war. Frankly, how much money did we spend fighting this war? I'm sure the liberals' answer for getting money for the government is always by taxing the people. The successful people who actually earned their money to be exact. But that's only the politicians, the actual liberal people still want lower taxes (contradictory anyone?)
So basically, if we try to settle our debts from this war by taxing people, people will complain that Bush is stealing our money. If we get capital gain from the abundance of oil, then the people complain. I don't think there's a third option, and even if there is, I'm sure the people will find a way to complain about that too.
I still don't see any good suggestions, just complaining.
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Fascinating rebuttal demon, if you werent such a blatant zealot one might be inclined to concede you may indeed have an interesting point[img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif[/img] (cept for that tattoo crap)[img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif[/img]
So in that spirit:
Cmon MNG, you know we cant conduct these liberation actions for free!
Power requires funding, exertion of power even more so. One cannot conquer the world in an economic vacuum[img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif[/img]
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I'm a zealot? For what exactly?
Edit: BTW, my tattoo comparison is less a comparison between tattoos and crime and more of a comparison of the way people use events to correlate to each other. This oil and war thing can very well be a simple backward association victim like the silly tattoo idea. Funny enough Gandalf, there was an actual study with criminals and tattoos and the idiot who did the study actually, sincerely, concluded what I said as a joke, haha. So the next time you blow something off thinking it's just a silly joke, consider the fact that there really may be someone stupid enough to believe it. [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif[/img] [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif[/img]
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--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell
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buccaneer wrote:
- Halliburton is probably the best company to do the
- job.
Based on what I have seen and heard, this certainly seems to the case.
- It only shows what this war was all about.
How so? This is simply one aspect of dealing with post-war Iraq. It does not prove anything.
It is not the same to talk of bulls as it is to be in the bullring.
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"How so? This is simply one aspect of dealing with post-war Iraq. It does not prove anything."
Woohoo, I managed to say something before Geist beat me to it! [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif[/img]
But I'll leave the rest up to him, he's so much better at it than I. I'll start referring everything to law sooner or later, and that would bore everyone to death.
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--Capt. Carter: "You think it might be a booby trap?"
â â Teal'c: "Booby?"
--"I'm a bomb technician, if you see me running, try to catch up" -in Russian on a bomb tech's shirt from "The Sum of All Fears"
--"All my life, I've been waiting for someone and when I find her, she's a fish!" -Tom Hanks "Splash"
--"War is not about who's right, it's about who's left." -Anders Russell
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MDS_Geist wrote:
- How so? This is simply one aspect of dealing with
- post-war Iraq. It does not prove anything.
No it doesn't prove anything. But I thought the Bush administration proclaimed that it was up to the Iraqi to shape their future. How come that this newly "liberated" country didn't have anything to say about who is controling their main economic rescource?
Doesn't seem to be very democratic, does it?
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