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XyZspineZyX · 12-29-2002, 10:04 PM

Have all the sensors that came out with all the new kits in IT ruined the game?

This has never ever been a fast twitchy game as some others have been, something that I have always appreciated. But now in MP it is VERY common to see someone plant thier two sensors and just lay down and wait. Very few people to me are on the attack. It has turned it to a regular camp ground. Lay a sensor down and lay ontop of it and wait.... I know I am not the only one seeing this. I have always liked this game .. and still do. But there are WAY too many kits with sensors ... encourging would be campers to start thier fires....

Is it just me or was the game more fun back when to carry a sensor you had to have the MP5, the all powerful ubergun that it was. Now .. everyone has one .. or two .. there is no longer a need for that kit ..

It's a little late I am sure .. maybe a kit restriction to original sensor kits .. I dont know but the abundance of the things now .. as it is .. is ruining the game.

XyZspineZyX · 12-29-2002, 10:04 PM

Have all the sensors that came out with all the new kits in IT ruined the game?

This has never ever been a fast twitchy game as some others have been, something that I have always appreciated. But now in MP it is VERY common to see someone plant thier two sensors and just lay down and wait. Very few people to me are on the attack. It has turned it to a regular camp ground. Lay a sensor down and lay ontop of it and wait.... I know I am not the only one seeing this. I have always liked this game .. and still do. But there are WAY too many kits with sensors ... encourging would be campers to start thier fires....

Is it just me or was the game more fun back when to carry a sensor you had to have the MP5, the all powerful ubergun that it was. Now .. everyone has one .. or two .. there is no longer a need for that kit ..

It's a little late I am sure .. maybe a kit restriction to original sensor kits .. I dont know but the abundance of the things now .. as it is .. is ruining the game.

XyZspineZyX · 12-29-2002, 10:11 PM

Yeah Dago, I completely agree. You used to be able to sneak up on your enemies, but now, it seems everyone has sensors. It was soo much better back when only the mp5 had them. I remember using the mp5, and killing people with that gun always brought a smile to my face. Now with sensors with the oicw, noone even brings the mp5 anymore, because there is no point. Being the sensor man in matches was always like having another player on your team, but that's gone as well. And yes, it does seem like <s>camping</s> strategic positioning is up as well.

Please UBI, take out the unneeded sensors, or, like dago said, make an original sensor kit restriction.

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Message Edited on 12/29/0204:12PM by Sportsguy1521

XyZspineZyX · 12-29-2002, 10:39 PM

I believe there is a kit restriction that allows you to turn sensors off. There is also a kit restriction to turn off explosives, to keep teams from loading up on weapons like the MM1 and just spamming the whole map. There's no real skill or fun in all that spamming, imo.

XyZspineZyX · 12-29-2002, 10:44 PM

We have played a lot of matches on Timed CombatZone due to the fact that Rumble is down. One of the rules on that ladder is that sensors are turned off. The games are a lot of fun and A LOT different than playing with sensors. That's the reason we usually turn sensors off in our server.

Nice comment Dago, you hit the nail on the head here.

XyZspineZyX · 12-29-2002, 10:48 PM

I dont think Dago is saying that all sensors need to go. In fact I think sensors are fine, but the problem is that ever kit know has them. Just like the binos. That was one of the great things, you had to give up something to be able to carry binos or sensors. Stratigic placement (Camping) was there but teams moved. Now you almost always see the placement of a sensor and then they lay down. What is the point, what would happen if both teams did this??? And I am not only refering to ladder matches but fun play. What fun is that.

Has anyone else noticed that the accuracy of several of the weapons are way off. They shoot down and to the right.


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XyZspineZyX · 12-30-2002, 12:24 AM

yes I agree, it has disturbed the balance of the game,,
now itâÂ´s all about those f-ing red diamonds,

the best way to enjoy multiplayergames in GR v.1.4 is to play on a "no sensors server"

XyZspineZyX · 12-30-2002, 04:16 AM

johnnny47 wrote:
- I believe there is a kit restriction that allows you
- to turn sensors off. There is also a kit
- restriction to turn off explosives, to keep teams
- from loading up on weapons like the MM1 and just
- spamming the whole map. There's no real skill or
- fun in all that spamming, imo.

Yes I know all about the no sensors kit restriction. I am not saying that sensors in general are a bad thing. Not at all. Sensors are a big part of the game I grew to really enjoy.

But at one time they were pretty well ballanced. To carry sensors you had to handicap your team by taking a member and arming him with what is in comparison a substandard gun. You gained a great advantage by having the sensors but it was balanced with that member having the MP5. It was a total blast to carry the gun, killing someone with it was an accomplishment. Always worth a good laugh. But with the inclusion of Binocs with every kit, the kits that prior to IT had the Binocs all have sensors now. There are simply too many and they are without a doubt unbalanced. Join a MP game and every other player has a sensor kit. 70% of those carrying sensors lay one down and I swear it seems the lay right ontop of it and wait the time limit out. I know its awfully late. When IT came out I had ALL KINDS of problems with it. Many of which were fixed with the ver1.4 patch. But I know they (UBI) felt that they could not lower the number of kits lost with the inclusion of the binocs .. but sensors after having played this version of the game are really a problem. At least they are IMHO. Aparently in the opinion of several others as well. I know the game cant be changed. But maybe in this supposed upcomming 3rd expansion pack .. or in a patch a kit restriction that limits sensors .. call it original sensors .. limited sensors .. balanced sensors .. call it a pink tu tu I dont care [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif[/img] But as things are now ... the game has lost alot of its enjoyment. I still like it . I still play it .. but it aint anywhere close to the game I instantly was hooked on with one simple demo map.

Oh [img]/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif[/img] and as for the spam .. 2 things .. run... run run when you spawn .. and do you know how much time and practice it takes to hit people from your spawn in thier spawn... I have never had a problem with it ... its rough .. I cant do it at all ..... but then with this game I cant hit water falling out of a boat .. but to those that can I take nothing from them .. think of it as an opening artilary barage ...

XyZspineZyX · 12-30-2002, 04:33 AM

Please warn us the next time you start a rant dago, and make a long post. I need to exercise my eyes before I read stuff like that.

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XyZspineZyX · 12-30-2002, 07:45 AM

Gameplay is something different now, but not so bad... i just enjoy Hamburger Hill matches (used in ClanBase ladder... my team own a server and we play 80% HH to make experience), no campers here tought.

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