I want to see SCAR,XM8,FAMAS,M4,SA80,SVD Dragunov, yeah this all i want.

LMAO @ Flamethrower

i would have to say the L85A1 (SA80) that gun is the shizza, So accurate in fact, that all rifle range tests had to made HARDER in order show its true potential!

it was in GR, it was in GR2 (pff p00 game) and it WILL be in GR3

it's a next gen weapon right now!



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I heard the Army is looking into the Tavor as a possible choice in competition to the M-8 series.

bullbup is the wave of the future it seems.

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Originally posted by Ja-m-es:
LMAO @ Flamethrower

i would have to say the L85A1 (SA80) that gun is the shizza, So accurate in fact, that all rifle range tests had to made HARDER in order show its true potential!

Yeah, until it jams or otherwise fails in combat. What good is accuracy if it proves to be one of the most unreliable battlefield weapons in recent history?

Man, I was thinking an M4 Masterkey, of course the M8, M29, but also some of the FAMAS and AUG, you know weapons you don't normally get to play with, just to sort of change it up, you know...

I really liked the M-25 with frags. The "White Feather"

I'm with baff actually. I thought Brothers in Arms was going to be GR with a different team command interface. Boy was I wrong. Still a good game though. The sniper rifle had that lame auto aiming though.

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Originally posted by Thoramir:

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Originally posted by Ja-m-es:
LMAO @ Flamethrower

i would have to say the L85A1 (SA80) that gun is the shizza, So accurate in fact, that all rifle range tests had to made HARDER in order show its true potential!

Yeah, until it jams or otherwise fails in combat. What good is accuracy if it proves to be one of the most unreliable battlefield weapons in recent history?

the A2 version is out now. It's still a lightweight plastic jam monkey though.
Surpassed in unreliablility only by the M4 and Minime.

Bullpups are great however, there's no going back. All the weight is behind the elbow, you can aim them faster and get less muscle fatigue
and longer barrels for the same overall weapon length.

I'd like to try some of the other bullpups too, the Steyr and the Famas and maybe that Tavor. I think the Steyr and the Famas have seen action in enough different climates to be reliable by now.

I'd like to see some sort of semi Auto 7.62 rifle preferably with a scope. An M14 or an SLR not to fussy what brand really as long as it has stopping power, semi auto fire and 600 metre accuracy any old blaster would do.

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Originally posted by Ja-m-es:
LMAO @ Flamethrower

i would have to say the L85A1 (SA80) that gun is the shizza, So accurate in fact, that all rifle range tests had to made HARDER in order show its true potential!

it was in GR, it was in GR2 (pff p00 game) and it WILL be in GR3

it's a next gen weapon right now!



"I FEEL LIKE PWNING nOObs"
www.uk-base.co.uk

To bad its such a POS that its been its been redesigned over 180 times and the British troops in Iraq would rather use conficated AKs then an that weapon.

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Originally posted by RWG_Jackal:

To bad its such a POS that its been redesigned over 180 times and the British troops in Iraq would rather use confiscated AKs then that weapon.

I think RSE likes to put it in just because its original looking style, it doesnt just suck, its the uglyest rifle ever, looks like a cheap space toy gun.

If these games included malfunctioning characteristics, players would have entirely different choices.

Didn't all the of the bullpup weapons in older Ubi/RSE games have better "handling" ratings?

The L85 in this series of games then is a weapon with good handling and a high zoom.

I also seem to recall it having a burst setting.

I have read that the British armed forces buy in the Diemaco C8 SFW (known as the "L119A1" in British service apparently) along with ACOG sights seemingly for the use of our SF and I rather doubt they'd bother spending the money if the L85A2 was all that.

I mean the L85A2 comes in carbine versions, is fitted with the same HK UGL and has what on paper appears to be a comparable optic.

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Originally posted by spm1138:
Didn't all the of the bullpup weapons in older Ubi/RSE games have better "handling" ratings?

The L85 in this series of games then is a weapon with good handling and a high zoom.

I also seem to recall it having a burst setting.

I have read that the British armed forces buy in the Diemaco C8 SFW (known as the "L119A1" in British service apparently) along with ACOG sights seemingly for the use of our SF and I rather doubt they'd bother spending the money if the L85A2 was all that.

I mean the L85A2 comes in carbine versions, is fitted with the same HK UGL and has what on paper appears to be a comparable optic.

the only M-16 variants being bought by militaries now are made by FN, Diemaco(Colt Canada now right?)and HK(416/417) Colt lost the contract to FN for the A2 I think and FN makes hte A4 for the Army and Corps I think.

It seems soldiers are unhappy with their rifles because of reliability and ergonomics. all these gusn are just being updated and updated but none of htem are getting a whole lot better.

I saw a picture of British troops in Afghanistan today armed with M16's (or Diemarco's more likely). Thats what the S.A.S. get.

The two plain clothes S.A.S. captured in Basra the other month were carrying M4's (or more likley Diemarco variants).

The only other recent footage I've seen of British Special forces was from that fort siege in Afghanistan the other year, where the S.B.S. are using AK's and GPMG's.

I'd note it's not just British troops who prefer AK's. If you look at all those high paid contractors in Iraq who can afford any weapon they like and get to choose, they are all using AK's too.

The combat trials for the M4 and Minime during Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan made for intresting reading. In the test group of 58 soldiers interviewed half said the M4 had jammed during combat. They also complained of heat build up and poor stopping power.
1 in 2 Minime's had failed to fire on contact with the enemy and many of them were physically broken (minor parts missing, the trigger guards for example). The troops went on to report they were every confidence in the Minime.
(SA80a2 trials were not very impressive either but didn't make for as conclusive reading, the report wasn't very detailed).
New cleaning products were called for although there isn't much that can be done about the overheats.


This compares with the Soviet use of AK's in Afghanistan. Standard soviet infantry (and even Specnaz)do not clean their weapons. The weapons are cleaned once a month by the armourer back at base. They operated in the exact same battlefields as the Armalites and Enfields.

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I have read that the British armed forces buy in the Diemaco C8 SFW (known as the "L119A1" in British service apparently) along with ACOG sights seemingly for the use of our SF and I rather doubt they'd bother spending the money if the L85A2 was all that.

I think the tense you are looking for is bought.
They are not necessarily buying the weapons, they have already bought them. They have had them for years. (Used them in the Falklands 1982) Long before the introduction of the SA80.
They could be new weapons bought last year, but I suspect they don't get to buy as many new guns as often as they would prefer.



The SA80 A2 now comes with a grenade launcher attachment which was their given reason for getting the Diemarco. It will be intresting to see whether the S.A.S. adopt them over the years to come.
I don't suppose the S.A.S. particularly want to be using the same weapons as every other British Infantry man. On the whole I think it's teething phase is over. It's been deployed in battle in every climate now and upgraded since that time.
Compared to it's predessecor the SLR it's a very flimsy tool. I certainly wouldn't feel 100% confident firing it after I had beaten someone to death with one.

As long as I have my official Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model BB rifle with a compass in the stock, then I'm set.

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Originally posted by Thoramir:

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Originally posted by Ja-m-es:
LMAO @ Flamethrower

i would have to say the L85A1 (SA80) that gun is the shizza, So accurate in fact, that all rifle range tests had to made HARDER in order show its true potential!

Yeah, until it jams or otherwise fails in combat. What good is accuracy if it proves to be one of the most unreliable battlefield weapons in recent history?

Apparently the SA80 MKII - The new version - is very reliable and battleworthy. I've seen a video clip of it in action by some British sharpshooters and it looks absolutely awesome.. It was dead accurate, firing rate was sublime, and there wasn't a single jam from any of the 12 shooters the whole time.

yeah, i heard alot of good stuff about what HK did to the L85, and then did it to the M-4 and came out with the HK-416

The XM8 program was cancelled last year.
Just wanted to clear that up.

Other than the SCAR-H, I wouldn't mind seeing an H&K 416. Or a Mk-19

I did lol at the flamethrower, that was good. Why don't we throw in a crossbow as well? Fits about the same.

What else other than a nice 30 mm AA gun. Perfect for taking out groups of men with one bullet. Good on elephants too. Blow dart guns would be nice too. I hear Zimbabwe's millitary (millitia)is currently using them. Or this one would best all others.
To be honest, as long as the weapons are well balanced, and no weapon that makes all others useless, I'm happy.