S! All

Here ya go, this works GREAT! I have some pics of needed supplies. 3/4 inch wooden balls ( I think 1/2 or 1/4 would work too I just haven't located any yet, and this was such an improvment I had to let it out before I did any more work).99 cents at hobby store and some reflective tape. You can get it from TrackIR or a Mechanics tool dealer and who knows where else. Mine is from my SnapOn tools infared digital tach. And some sort of glue I used my Wifes Hot glue gun. Also an old pair of glasses mine are some cheap fishing glasses that had scratched lenses, I popped them out. I only used about 5 inches of tape, also sand on side of ball flat for the glue to adhere too. Now that it's out I'm sure others will be able to improve on it and tweak it some I'm sure. Either by ball size for more precision or mounting like on hats, or using clips,Or peicings, Noze,eyebrow,Hey the tounge, there ya go never turn your head fly with mouth open and wag your tounge

Here are pics.













This is what tape was for before Track Ir



After freeing up my Hat button for looking I reallocated it to Zoom Views.

For Gunsight Zoom View

Wide view Zoomed out

Shift F1 View

Normal Gunsight view

It was only natural to leave some sort of View stuff there, after so many years of Thumb looking anyways.

And here is a couple of tracks of it being used.When veiwing make sure you have manual veiw turned off so you see what I see.(thats the switch down position) Oh made with earlier TIR drivers on a Win 2000 machine, Amd 1400 512 pc133 ram LB was working then.

http://home.mchsi.com/~tagalong/TRACKIR_DEMO_.rar

Here are some in video form at Youtube.

Look at this page for a cool video of it in action in Pacific Fighters.
http://www.mittoni.com.au/trac...-tracker-p-2040.html

This is way easier than the Infra red LED Mod




Besides I havent seen any instructions on it anyways. Guys post stuff but seldom give the details, I'm from Missouri the SHOW ME STATE.

My mod works in the daylight and Dark too. I recorded track at 2pm with the sun shinning into the room. When you do it you will find that the TracIR stock setup on Deadzone is all you need, I have enough room to back away from sensor 5 feet and it never skips a beat.I was 2 1/2 foot from it duirng the track.

Below is a jpeg of my head travel. While in the pit. I used a short pencil in my mouth let it stick out about 1 inch. Then let it mark on note pad. then I retraced it with a felt tip for scanning.




Here is my origional TIR1 profile http://home.mchsi.com/~tagalong/Stock_deadzone.rar

Here is my latest profile for the latest software for TIR 3, and 4 with vector
http://home.mchsi.com/~t_o_a_d/T_O_A_D_with_Vector.zip

Link to Naturalpoint's latest drivers
http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/06-support/support-...are-and-manuals.html

Link to Naturalpoint's drivers for older units.
http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/06-support/support-...-and-manuals-v3.html


EDIT EDIT EDIT
Here is a great thread with pictures explaining the advantage of the ball I found recently.
Take me Over to the Birds of Prey Forum

I got permission to post them here now too. Thanks guys S!





Here is one of the IL2 Developers enjoying this modification. I found this pic on the 1946 Bonus DVD.




Well good luck enjoy and keep me posted on how it works or you.

Link to my TIR3 Pro Observations I skipped TIR2

EDIT on the new VECTOR Thing

Link to update your Unit for 6DoF
http://www.naturalpoint.com/tr...-expansion-help.html

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...9310655&m=6361055203

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...3110283&m=7951055203

Here is a real nice tutorial on how to setup the latest vector and drivers.
http://www.mission4today.com/i...Base&op=show&kid=384
Here is my Hat after adding Vector to my TIR3Pro The clip is on only to show where my balls are placed. I fly without the clip, Balls only.

This is Luckyboys.


Just adding some threads.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...3110283/m/7681084124

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...23110283&m=647100332

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102...0283&m=489101822&p=1

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/u...pic;f=98;t=009991;p=

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...3110283/m/3441037683

This message has been edited. Last edited by: T_O_A_D,

Toadie I've been thinking about all this boom on your head deal.
Why not bring the mountain to Mohammed?
I'm thinking of making an aluminum bracket attached to the monitor, then mounting the "eye" onto that.
Thoughts?

The original HawgDog, dont be fooled by fneb imitations
~W~ cause S! has become USELESS
When you get to hell, tell 'em Hawgdog sent you

I think it would work, of couse though it would stick out enough that If'n ya was drinking or horseing around with friends or family near your machine it might poke an eye out, or worse yet nock the dang thing to the floor breaking your trackIR <img src="/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif" width=16 height=16 border=0> My PC is in a busy traffic area, it would get busted.I origanly posted this 3 months ago and have yet to fiddle with the glasses or make any type of adjustments or repairs. Short updating drivers as they come.

I have my TrackIR just sitting on top of my viewsonic 20g monitor no special brakcets.

I have seen a posting about it awhile back, can't find it now though. This guy had it infront a large screen in a basment and home made switchboards too. The thread ran off into a discusion of his little armymen figurines in a mock battle of somesort. And how his trees looked like majauana.LOL


Edit: Ran out of room on above post it won't let me add anymore.

Here are a couple of testimonials, I've recieved on PM's

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Hi T_O_A_D! Really nice post on your "trackIR cheap fix"! I watch your demo files and you seem to have been able to adjust the motion speed really nice. I was wondering if you might consider to send me your IL-2 FB trackIR profile? My email is Thanks in advance! //Jonas
Worked like a charm, made a ball just like yours and i works great! However..i used the ball as an excuse to by me a Killkenny beer with a ball inside - used that when i had finished it lol
Found a good link here with alots of info on the beer: http://student.cs.ucc.ie/~pmk3/html/beer.html The can includes a small plastic ball inside to ensure that the cream is good when u serve the beer. That is the ball i used for trackIR hehe. Btw.. i'm from Sweden <img src="/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" width=16 height=16 border=0>


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Hey Dude! I just wanted to let you know, I've had a TrackIR for a few months and it's been taking up space because I didn't know how to set up a custom profile and the tracking just wasn't smooth enough. I had seen your "TrackIR fix" and although it wasn't that I didn't believe you, I didn't think it would make THAT much difference...I was SO wrong. I was using 6 dots in a connected pyramid shape on the bill of a ball cap with very little success. I went to Michaels today (you know, the craft store?) and got some pre-drilled 1/2" wooden balls, 3 ft of 1/8" dowel rod, some reflective tape and velcro strips. The dowel rod fit perfectly and I wrapped the balls with 1/8" strips of the tape. I cut the rod to about 5" and merely attached it to the top of the bill of the cap with the velcro....VOILA! It sticks out about 3" (which is good) and the tracking is very precise and smooooth. All I can say is, I should have done this sooner. I'm sure if more people tried this they wouldn't be getting rid of their TrackIR. Allen "Thunderbolt56"

I have decided that we will introduce reflective markers that are round, or as some like to call them, reflective balls. Look for them around the end of the year.
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Jim

NaturalPoint
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[This message was edited by T_O_A_D on Thu June 17 2004 at 11:15 AM.]

Hawgdog wrote:
- Toadie I've been thinking about all this boom on
- your head deal.
- Why not bring the mountain to Mohammed?
- I'm thinking of making an aluminum bracket attached
- to the monitor, then mounting the "eye" onto that.
- Thoughts?


This works great for me...

If you can, put a cheap microphone boom stand behind
your monitor. Mount the photocell on the boom towards
the back of the monitor(about a foot higher than your
head)and aim it down at your reflector. TOAD'S idea is
good for this. I mounted mine on the top-front of a
baseball hat with the brim cut off. The boom stand allows
me to get closer to the screen without being too close to the photocell. Play around till you get the positions that
work for you.

her is somthing i posted a day ago i think ..its just so yall can be on the look out.............i was over at the natural point boards earlier to day .........ther main man jim richardson, stated that there is soon to be a new gen tir i asked if it was compatible with what we have or is stand alone he replied info to be released in a week or 2 here are the statements.....jim richardson wrote..Sorry for the very late reply, we have been busy working on the next generation of trackIR system; do get your hopes up!............i wrote.Jim Richardson .....sir can ya give us a little hint on next gen tir? will it be stand alone or will it work with what we have .ya cant just leave us hanging can ya .........jim richarson wrote.. I guess I can, There will be more info coming over the next week or so, it will be a good Christmas for all trackIR lovers




U.S INFANTRY 84-91

WOW - I downloaded your tracks.. and the TrackIR seems to work great.. is there a good retailer in the USA you can refer us to?

http://www.edimensional.com this is who i got mine thru , what was nice was they did C.O.D. which ment i could order before i had the $

U.S INFANTRY 84-91

Cpt-Maxim wrote:
- WOW - I downloaded your tracks.. and the TrackIR
- seems to work great.. is there a good retailer in
- the USA you can refer us to?
-
I bought mine from a local shop.

But this link will get you $15.00 off though the maker of them http://games.naturalpoint.com/store/npforums.wp2


My TIR1 profile 2.11 drivers http://home.mchsi.com/~tagalong/Stock_deadzone.rar





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[This message was edited by T_O_A_D on Thu June 17 2004 at 05:18 PM.]

I have brought the mountain to Muhamed. I started with a .69 cents ruler. You know the school 12 inch type. I cut it in half and stuck half of it between the monitor and its stand. Obviously it does not stand up on its own So then I stuck the other half under the monitor stand. Using the hole in the upper ruller, I put the TIR base through and aimed it at myself. The bottom ruler is just there to hold the other one up. It does this by supporting the end of the TIR base. In short the TIR is now six inches closer and about an inch and a half higher. The dots on my mike boom have no problem communicating with the unit. Stutter is a thing of the past and I no longer sit with my eyes inches from the monitor. I will soon make a better brackett. But for now, it was not a bad way for an old ruler to go.

Maj. Maico
249th I.A.P.
Group II XO


"We take the Boom out of your Zoom"

Maico_249th wrote:
- I have brought the mountain to Muhamed. I started
- with a .69 cents ruler. You know the school 12 inch
- type. I cut it in half and stuck half of it between
- the monitor and its stand. Obviously it does not
- stand up on its own So then I stuck the other half
- under the monitor stand. Using the hole in the upper
- ruller, I put the TIR base through and aimed it at
- myself. The bottom ruler is just there to hold the
- other one up. It does this by supporting the end of
- the TIR base. In short the TIR is now six inches
- closer and about an inch and a half higher. The
- dots on my mike boom have no problem communicating
- with the unit. Stutter is a thing of the past and I
- no longer sit with my eyes inches from the monitor.
- I will soon make a better brackett. But for now, it
- was not a bad way for an old ruler to go.


That great you got it working. But did you see I can sit 5 foot away with no ill effect on my tracking. I beleive I could sit further away but Wifes dinning room table is an obstruction and she just won't let me toss it out. <img src="/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" width=16 height=16 border=0>


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[This message was edited by T_O_A_D on Thu June 17 2004 at 05:19 PM.]

Cool, Five Feet AWAY! Ok, Im getting out the luminous tape and try that again. I will let you know tonight how that works.

Maj. Maico
249th I.A.P.
Group II XO


"We take the Boom out of your Zoom"

Here is another way Ive done it.









Assortment of Aligator clips Radio Shack $2.69

Drilled balls so clip would slide in snug.

Takes a bit longer to build than the glasses but then you need a pair of old glasses that need the lenses popped out.



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Commanding Officer of the 131st_VFW


After eating an entire bull, a mountain
lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a
hunter came along and shot him...
The moral: when you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.

[This message was edited by T_O_A_D on Thu June 17 2004 at 11:16 AM.]

The "alligator clip on the cap" looks almost exactly like the finished product I have except I used a thin dowel rod and velcro to attach it. Mine sticks out about an inch or two farther, but same theory....bottom line is...it works!

The more I read your suggestions and the reults, the more I think my TrackIR is fading (don't read into that; I still love it). No kind of tape gave sufficient reflection, so I've reverted to the LED thing. The IR LED worked best, but it burns out easily. The visible light one worked fine. I do think it's my TrackIR and not your suggestion. I'll just replace it with the new version when it comes out.

By the way, just to restore my credibility with the show-me state lol, here's the specifics. A trip to Radio Shack. Bought 1.5V to 12V variable power adapter an LED, and 100-ohm resistor. Set the PS to 4.5 volts. Soldered the 100-ohm resitor (a 33 was recommended, but didn't seem to work right) to one of the LED leads. Built the leads up a bit to act as contacts. Plugged it directly into the PS cord, which comes with a 2-prong female plug. Used a bit of coat hanger to wrap around the plug, then nent the other end 90-deg. I put some sticky-back clips on my headset (both also from Radio Shack), and theaded the wire down one side of the headset, then snapped the bent coat hanger into the same clip. I used a couple more clips to guid the wire down to the left ear piece.

I'm old, with typical old-guy eyes, so I get as close to the monitor as I can and leave the receiver on top of my monitor.

I like your solution better, as it's one less wire to get tangled up in. But Jim Richardson is also making a reflective ball available (I think), so the idea had obvious merit.

There. I should be in the clear now lol.

Buster_Dee..if you are thinking that your ir emitters might b-e getting weak you can go tho radio shack get cat no.276-1099 it is a infared sensor its like 5-6 bucks and can be used for checking your remote controls as well


U.S INFANTRY 1984-1991

Yeh Buster_Dee do what tenmike suggest. If its weak mabey is yours still under warranty. Get the new one for free.<img src="/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" width=16 height=16 border=0>

Have you checked your Private Topics recently?
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread
Commanding Officer of the 131st_VFW

After eating an entire bull, a mountain
lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a
hunter came along and shot him...
The moral: when you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.

[This message was edited by T_O_A_D on Thu June 17 2004 at 11:16 AM.]

tenmmike,

I was thinking the reciever is getting weak. I turn off its IR source when I use an LED. But, you have a point. I hadn't considered that the IR source in the reciever might be getting weak. It does seem to give a decent return with the dots; you just can't turn your head very far before it gets dicey. Hmm. I'd better drop Jim R a line. He's been great in the past.

hey guys,

Since 2 days i have trackir. I am glad with it but
i have to get use with it. Its much to sensitive.

I also want to make a ball but i thought to kit
aluminium foil around the ball. Do that
also works fine??

How can i make trackir less sensitive??

Aluminum will not work, Sorry tried that. Just down load that stock profile, at the top of thread I posted and place it in your TrackIr folder. C:\Program Files\Naturalpoint\TrackIR

This is good with the ball, If you are using dots,and don't have reflective tape, and limited by not having enough dots for a ball, just get half of a ball and cover it evenly with the dots. Just place dots around the base of ball first then gradually place them in a circle to the top of if. Layer them like fish scales or bird feathers the very center one should be the last one you put on. It should work alright that way.

Off to work will check back later.

Have you checked your Private Topics recently?
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread
Commanding Officer of the 131st_VFW

After eating an entire bull, a mountain
lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a
hunter came along and shot him...
The moral: when you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.



Message Edited on 10/28/03 01:03AM by T_O_A_D

[This message was edited by T_O_A_D on Thu June 17 2004 at 11:17 AM.]