FT is for Filthy Trailer

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Originally posted by My_own_summer:
I think I've got most of them. Does anyone know a site where a list is of all (or at least known) eastereggs?

I surfed through most of this forum for the easter eggs, but there must be a site somewhere.

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Try here, MOS: The Egg Hunt

To the world you may be one person,
But to one person you may be the world!

CT is for Clean Trailer?

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Originally posted by My_own_summer:
Here is the secret behind the plate (if you can call it that). When the plate was found on a website I decided to mail the guy that owns the site, and it turns out it is part of his collection of plates. Here's the repsonse I got from him:

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I was very astonished to see this plate on the website (Spiegel Online) of the German magazine "Der Spiegel". The magazine has an article about this license plate and its use in URU here. The article (in German) especially refers to this thread and forum as the source.

Interesting and maybe news is the last paragraph which I'm going to translate:

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P.S.: Aus einer Email von Chris Brandkamp von Cyan Worlds als Reaktion auf eine Anfrage von SPIEGEL ONLINE:

"Es war uns vollkommen unbekannt, dass dieses Nummernschild von einem unserer Künstler kopiert worden ist (er arbeitet nicht mehr für uns). Wir achten (wie Sie sich vorstellen können) strikt auf Copyright-Fragen, insofern ist es ziemlich peinlich, dass uns das jetzt vor die Füße fällt."

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From an e-mail from Chris Brandkamp from Cyan Worlds as reaction to a question from Spiegel Online:

"It was unknown to us that this license plate has been copied by one of our artists (no longer working for us). We strictly respect (as you can imagine) questions of copyright, thus it is very awkward, that this is now alighting on our feet."

Bah'tahm

Whoops!

Hope that guy can be bought off with a copy of Uru!

Sri's Relto

Well for those that are interested, but can't read German, you can use Google Language Tools here or try a direct interpretation translated version here. (oh btw - it did make front page for the Spiegel site )

I guess the BIG question is: Did the former artist from Cyan actually use the image from this guy's web site or did he actually photograph the same plate in situ in NM before it was harvested by Mr. Sebald?

I do hope it can all be worked out in an agreeable manner between all parties, it is totally UNLIKE Cyan to ignore copyrights. Hopefully, the artist who did this didn't have malicious intent before leaving Cyan - but stanger things have happened.

I dont want to speculate on the outcome, or make comments on the legal aspect of this, for fear of adding fuel to the fire. I do hope Mr. Sebald will work with Cyan (and Ubisoft) to come to a reasonable conclusion that works well for everyone.

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[This message was edited by TheRealMarlboro on Tue March 09 2004 at 04:57 AM.]

[This message was edited by TheRealMarlboro on Tue March 09 2004 at 04:57 AM.]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but is there such a thing as a copyright on a license plate? I doubt it.

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I guess the BIG question is: Did the former artist from Cyan actually use the image from this guy's web site or did he actually photograph the same plate in situ in NM before it was harvested by Mr. Sebald?

I do hope it can all be worked out in an agreeable manner between all parties, it is totally UNLIKE Cyan to ignore copyrights. Hopefully, the artist who did this didn't have malicious intent before leaving Cyan - but stanger things have happened.

I dont want to speculate on the outcome, or make comments on the legal aspect of this, for fear of adding fuel to the fire. I do hope Mr. Sebald will work with Cyan (and Ubisoft) to come to a reasonable conclusion that works well for everyone.

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Beware mindless speculation -- you never know where it might lead! In this case, bored people blindly following a non-clue have found a potentially-nasty legal problem for Cyan.

As if they needed more trouble.

Now, in a rational society, the fellow who "owns" this license plate photo would simply take take some small pride in having his trivial and non-commercial picture used in a popular game. However, we do not live in a rational society; while I doubt the photographer has lost any income due to Ubi's use of a license plate photo, I'm sure lawyers can come up with some imagined harm that requires treatment with cash.



[This message was edited by ChaoticCoyote on Tue March 09 2004 at 05:46 AM.]

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Originally posted by Urudawg:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but is there such a thing as a copyright on a license plate? I doubt it.

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I don't know if the administration handing out license plates is enforcing copyrights, but a photographer has the copyright on his photos, and that is what was used here (as the photographer said he picked the license plate up in 1998 at a junkyard at the border between New Mexico and Colorado).

Bah'tahm

Originally posted by ChaoticCoyote:

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I guess the BIG question is: Did the former artist from Cyan actually use the image from this guy's web site or did he actually photograph the same plate in situ in NM before it was harvested by Mr. Sebald?

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From his own words in the Spiegel article he found it 1998. Unlikely the artist just happened to photograph it before that date.

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Now, in a rational society, the fellow who "owns" this license plate would simply take take some small pride in having his trivial and non-commercial picture used in a popular game. However, we do _not_ live in a rational society; while I doubt the photographer has lost any income due to Ubi's use of a license plate photo, I'm sure lawyers can come up with some imagined harm that requires treatment with cash.

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Most people in Germany are relaxed and amused or annoyed about some aspects of the US legal system. Since Mr. Seibold apprently talked to UBI Germany, I hope they are sending him an URU box so he can look at "his" plate inside the game and add the box to his plate collection.

Bah'tahm

relax guys

i know Mr. Sebald and he wonâ´t try to press cash out of this weird story.

At the moment he is just amazed what kind of echo this incident caused and i think he would be pleased if Ubisoft admits that they are using his photograph (which is obvious to me)
and perhaps just offer him some kind of gift
he should be satisfied.

The tradition of sueing people to horrible amounts of money for almost nothing really is
an american invention and we will not adopt this madness.

This is only my point of view but i am sure that martin also thinks so.

After all this is all your fault
- we wouldnâ´t have noticed

greetings from Germany

Steffen

I must say that I never expected that we would get this far with tracing the plate. But this does say that with the help of others you can accomplish a lot

I don't know where I heard that before

<-- See, I try and look up to the sky but my eyes burn -->

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Originally posted by platethief:
relax guys

i know Mr. Sebald and he wonâ´t try to press cash out of this weird story.
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After all this is all your fault
- we wouldnâ´t have noticed
greetings from Germany
Steffen

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shew thats a relief.

I was quite amazed myself, when an actual photo showed up. I think it just goes to show how intrepid us 'explorers' are. WE'll stop at nothing to learn the truth of a clue or a non-clue as the case may be. In all honesty, there is no way we should have or could have know that the plate is or is not a clue. Mr. Zandi has left some clues that were waaaay out in left field.

Platethief-
(hmm where did that name come from I wonder?) Please pass on my appreciation to Mr. Sebald for his unintentional involvement in the game. I for one am glad he is being a 'good sport' about all this. But in some small way, I hope it is somewhat comforting for him to know he now has a place in Uru history, something I think I can safely say that we ALL wish we had the honor of being 'caught' in the game.

So for me, I'd like to thank Mr. Sebald for his part in contributing Uru such a fun and enjoyable game. It teaches me, once again, that art truely does imitate life.

Good day and Shorah

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Maybe they (Cyan) could work Mr. Sebald into the story line, like a 1 time appearance or something, as a thank you for letting them (Cyan) use the plate.
It would be a nice gesture and might give Mr. Sebald some free advertisment.
Might make everyone happy

Oh my, oh my, I certainly hope Officer Swanson doesn't find out about this. Think of the consequences. Perhaps its time to head underground? Oh my, oh my...

I know what! To make the German artist/photographer happy, we could create an online version of Uru, sort of like Uru:Live, and let him have his own German neighborhood, and go and chat him up, and make friends with him, and use the lag time to get out our German dictionaries, and so if he learned to love Uru the way we do, then maybe he wouldn't feel so bad.....

This reminds me of a problem Ubisoft had with Splinter Cell. Somewhere in the game an Ubi artist put in a made-up URL. A fan of the game saw this URL and registered it and started a web site there that wasn't the nicest of web sites.

At least Cyan's got the whole web site thing (Fishure) settled for Uru.

Cheers,
- Deg -


D'ni Proverb: The head is hard; the rock is harder.

Shorah dear fellow explorers!

I nearly can't read my screen, tears of laughter rolling down my face...
For a long time I haven't laught like that! Thank you very much for this abso-dupa-lutely funny thread!

roflbitc!

M'Ike

I wonder if this might be a reason for the X1 delay? After all, there was this comment in the (Google-translated) German article:

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I believes the lawyers of Ubi and cyanogen has straight fresh headache to it-gets.

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I AM NOT Zard0z!!!

I have to say.. I have been following this thread the last few days.. seeing how you tenacious detectives were doing

Now to see the plate really exists?? I am falling apart with laughter!

This is wonderful... URU is far more than the sum of its parts, and its fans!

Larelian