Congratulations! You played a good game, well, you have to in order to reach max. score in TOTL.

You can probably get around 3.000 more points in FC without getting into the Matuvu combos and you could aim for 5.000 more points in HH. But the way I see it, you can get most points from playing SBTC. Even without the dreaded green gem combo in part 3, you should be able to reach 90.000 - 100.000 points. The key to a scoreline like this is getting the big combos in part 2 to work. It is hard work but fun to play. Have you decided what level to play?

I've chosen SBTC, yeah. I would like 100,000 in that level. The problem I have with this level is actually part 1. My theory for part 3 is that if you steer right after the first big jump, then you'll get launched into the air. Of course, it's just a theory, but it worked for other areas in this part. It's part 1 I'm dreading... Last time I played I could only get 11,000.

Something worth mentioning; I believe I found out how to trigger the Lockjaw glitch in part 2 of TOTL. It can only be done if it's the first time you've played in a day, so no restarts. (it's only available for PS2 players like me)

By the way, how is your score coming along?

It is a great help if you can get the green gem in combo for 9.000 points in part 1, but there's a way to get it for 6.000 points without going to the upper deck where the cannon is placed (with the Lockjaw). Use the Throttle Copter and lift yourself high enough so you can shoot the cannon (without taking the yellow gems on the way up). Now, hit the cannon, take the yellow gems on the way down and land on the Throttle Copter. Quickly run and jump the rail to the secret room and get the gems there, take a yellow gem first. You need to be fast.

Interesting that there is a way to trigger the Lockjaw glitch in TOTL part 2. Too bad it cannot be used to increase the score beyond 104.499 points.

My score is 849.489 at the moment, so I just need a wee bit more than 500 points to reach 850.000 points. I'll get there soon...

To beat 104499, you'll need almost exactly 94,000 at the beginning of part 3. It looks pretty tough, and I'm not going to try it. Still, maybe it would get you those missing points.

And by the way, in TDOTK, I'm not sure if 109359 IS the maximum score either. Here's a theory:
Give each Hoodblaster two small shots, then, kill the first one, and transform the Black Lum as it comes to you. Do the same with the others (note that this would have to be done really fast) until you have something like 500 points. That would give you at least 200 extra combo points. Maybe it's worth testing out some day.

About SBTC, I'll try and get 15,000 as I can't seem to pull off the glitch. I'll try your suggestion instead.

It would be great if one could get the Black Lums in the last part of DOTK. I know it can be done if you play on PC, which is why players using this platform have a higher score in DOTK than players on any other platform. I have tried myself on X-BOX and I can't get the Lums from the lower level. I need to climb up to get them and then the combo runs out.

It's a good idea though and I will give it another go. Let me know if you succeed on PS2.

It's worth trying. I'll have a go on the other save game tomorrow.

And for SBTC part 1. I'm actually finding the 6000 combo fairly easy (the glitch you showed doesn't seem to work at all) and the second big combo is achievable too. Previously I ended with 14870, when I promised myself 15000 would be the bare minimum. Yeah, I'll try and get 15,000 tomorrow too as I think I'll need those points for part 2.

Err, I'm having several problems in part 2. Part 1 went fair considering I don't think the glitch works on PS2, and I got 15568 points.

Firstly, in reference to the Lavicraft combo, I can't seem to combo the wooden door after the last yellow gem on the grill. The rest of this combo is fairly straightforward and can be performed without fail 80% of the time.

Secondly, I really cannot combo the Elite Monger who is on the scaffolding (atleast I think that's what it is as it can't be seen) after the Hoodboom which is also on the scaffolding but further down. The lockon doesn't seem to be working, even when I jump. Is there a method I could use in order for the lockon to appear?

I'm also having a few problems with the Hoodbooms. Sometimes they throw bombs at themselves for no apparent reason and kill themselves, hence destroying any good combo I can do. It's really annoying but I suppose there's nothing that can be done about it. They're just pests.

The Lavicraft combo is difficult because it’s quite long, and it is often broken at the door or because the Hoodboom kills himself. If you look at the video I made, the Hoodboom is missing in the end. It’s extremely annoying loosing 1.260 points like that.
As for the door, if you take the last yellow gem on the grid straight on you will never get to the door in time because you need to get the HMF before falling down. You need to pass it on the right and then get it by turning left as late as possible and as near as possible to the HMF. It takes some practise to get the timing right.

In the last room there is a place where you can get the lock on the Elite Monger on the scaffolding. You need to experiment to find the exact location. If you look carefully there is a shade of grey on the snowy ground. If you stand just to the left of it, you can get the lock. If you have done it one time, you can do it every time. Good luck with the combos.

This is proving to be a very difficult level for me.

For starters, the door never seems to get comboed, despite collecting the gem at the last minute. That's a bummer as it loses me over 2500 points.

Secondly, I managed to lock on to the Monger (thanks for the help with that) once, though, out of about 6 times.

And thirdly, I can't get the gem on the balloon after beating the Hoodboom despite having succeeded in this several times.

I'm looking for a minimum score of 80,000 in order to exceed 100,000 points in SBTC, but it's not so easy for me. I'll need a stroke of luck to get anywhere near this number, it seems.

Well, I suggest you forget about the door this time around. It's one of those things you can include when you are aiming for the max. score. I'm not sure it will cost you 2.500 points though.

As for the Balloon Combo you can skip the gems on the balloons and after the Hoodboom head straight for the Elite Monger near the door. It means you will get him for 2.000 points in combo instead of 2.500. With the Lums glitch you may still be lucky to get the Matavu for 2.500 combo points.

You can use the five gems on the balloons later to combo the last Hoodblaster that will appear near the boxes in the end.

I'd recommend you practise where to stand to lock in on the Elite Monger on the scaffolding. When you have found the right place you need to jump to lock in. This Elite Monger alone is worth 2.500 points in combo.

How's the level coming on?

I almost cracked it. My minimum target is 80,000 points and I got 77310. How annoying.

Anyways, the door - it worked! I pulled it off twice in the space of an hour which isn't bad considering most of that time is spent on that first combo. I see what you mean about taking it at the last minute. And also, the Hoodboom is actually behaving himself and didn't kill himself once. This is great news. The problem I'm now having is comboing the Lavomatrix, which isn't really that hard. :/

The balloon combo seems to be working fine too. I can pull that off nearly every time (gems on balloons included).

However, the last two big comboes are some of the most annoying. I have indeed been practicing, but I've only ever hit the Monger once, and that wasn't in the combo. Is the target only available at one point, or is it always available from one paticular spot?


But yeah, the level is coming on better than I thought. The most annoying part is obviously the first combo... It's the remaining Hoodblaster that causes the most problems, most of the time disabling me from taking the Matavu. Even with a variation that I've made (that unfortunately loses me 500 points) the Hoodblaster still causes the problems. It seems to take me ten to fifteen minutes to pass this combo.

I'm having trouble myself with the first big combo when I play this part. It takes quite a number of restarts to make it right. The number of Lums decides whether or not I lose 500 points in this combo, so there's some good fortune involved as well.
If I remember correctly the is a place you can stand to take the Matuvu without getting hit by that Hoodblaster. I remember he used to ruin the combo many times for me.

You can find the right place to stand to lock in on the Elite Monger on the scaffolding by standing on the ground with the strafe button activated. When you make a jump you should be able to hear the lock-in sound. If you don't hear anything, it's probably not the right place. When you have found the right place, it works almost every time. Jump, lock in, send a charged, curved shot and he's history.

Do you aim for 80.000 points after part 2?

Yeah! I finally managed to break the 850.000 point barrier. I found the points I needed in Hoodlum Headquarters. My scores are now as follows:

The Fairy Council: 43.607
Clearleaf Forest: 109.756 (I’ll get the missing 3 points later)
The Bog of Murk: 99.999 (I’ll hit Razoff 4 times later)
The Land of the Livid Dead: 119.599
The Desert of the Knaaren: 109.359
The Longest Shortcut: 42.700
The Summit beyond the Clouds: 111.294
Hoodlum Headquarters: 109.209
The Tower of the Leptys: 104.499
Total: 850.022

Congratulations! That's an incredible score!
I seem to remember Jona saying that if he continued playing he could get just above 820,000, but that was in 2004 I never even imagined it was possible to get such a high score. Maybe you should play SBTC too, because I have a theory about another way of getting the green gem.

Anyway, I'm a bit annoyed right now, with the Hoodboom that stands on the cliffedge. I'm getting good at the Lavicraft combo and can usually combo the door after the last gem on the grill, but the balloon combo that follows is really causing me problems - either because I miss the Hoodboom completely, or because I can't get to the balloon in time, or even because the Hoodlums burst the balloon before I even make it. It's really frustrating as when I'm not trying for the 80,000, I can always do it.
Everytime I get 75000-79000 (I once got 79834, God knows why I turned that down), which is not good enough for me. I need the 80,000, which I've promised myself.

Thanks! In 2004 I hadn't even started playing R3. I played it the first time 2005 and at that time Jona had set the standard when it comes to scoring. Back then my ambition was to reach 800.000 points. I had never imagined it would be possible to find so many extra points.

I experience the same troubles as you describe. It's just a natural part of playing SBTC. Patience and resilience is required here.

I will play SBTC again at some point as I can get 500 - 700 points more from the green gem combo. But you say you have a new approach? I'm intrigued. Spill the beans!

Well, it's just a theory. In other areas in the snowboard course it's possible to obtain another 6 flips or so and be sent in a random direction if you steer towards a wall in a corner. Perhaps this is possible in the large combo, so Rayman steers into the cliff after the two jumps and get launched into the air (hopefully in the direction of the following gems). If this were possible, and 10 extra flips could be made, it would allow 1500 more points in the combo thus making the "maximum" score something around 113000. It works in another place in part 3, so there's a fair chance it would work here. But then, I have not tried it.

In any case, I'm not happy with myself. 77131, 78238, 79001 and 79984 were made today, but not the wretched 80000 or more. I'm getting better with the comboes so I should get it soon.

You're really serious when playing for 80.000 points. 16 points short couldn't do it? How's it going with the Elite Monger?

I believe I tried anything that could launch me into the air around the green gem combo in part 3. I didn't succeed beyond the launching glitch on the edge. But it's worth investigating further, that's for sure. Let me know if you come up with anything that works. Another way of scoring high in this part is that if you can get stuck somewhere while still being able to kickflip. I managed to score 4.000 points in combo at one time. If I could keep that going, the sky is the limit.

Hooray. I now have 80892 points after part 2! It's not that much in comparison to your 91000, but I got 65000 out of 70000, so I'm satisfied. And yeah, I was very picky about getting 80000. 80000 itself, as I already mentioned, isn't the greatest score after part 2, so I'd need AT LEAST that score to have a chance of getting the 100k. It also gives me piece at mind.

Here's an alternative way for the first big combo, by the way. If you're going to use it, be careful to get at least 3 BLs from the two Elite Mongers. It's so much easier, though.

Click me for the video

I haven't touched part 3 yet, but I hope to exceed 100,000 by the end of it!

Yeah, I see what you mean. The combo is easier and you still get more than 10.000 in combo. Maybe I'll play that way next time around.
I think it was Mostwanted who got a score of 91.000 after part 2. I never got that, nor is it necessary. If you go for a score around 105.000 points, you need 88.000 - 88.500 points after part 2. If you go for a score around 111.000 points, using the launching glitch, then you need something like 87.500 points after part 2.

I just replayed Clearleaf Forest and got the missing 3 points. Thus I have increased my score to 850.025. It's not the biggest improvement in history, but it does comfort me to have the max. score in CF rather than being 3 points short.

That's a massive improvement! It really booted your score up!
On a serious note, I find it incredible that you have the patience to do that. The rest of CF is darn easy (with the exception of part 2), but part 4 is terrible. The maximum combo points I got were 7300...

Anyway, I'd disagree with you with SBTC. You say that 17,000 points can be earned without the glitch, but I calculated that just over 20,000 could be won if you play your cards right on the journey down. My target is 101,800, which is going to be very difficult (if not impossible) to achieve. That would boot my score up to 790,000.