This question relates to Lomac (original) patched to 1.02.

I have my pitch and roll trim remapped to the arrow keys (not on the num pad) and I am assuming that a single key press/release results in one unit of trim. Whatever that is, its too much. For example, in stabilized level flight, one press/release of the pitch up key results in my A-10 climbing at 1000/2000 ft/min, then a press/release of down trim results in a descent of 1000/2000 ft/min. I can keep the A-10 level with the joystick, but I can’t trim out to level flight. Its as if the trim increments are too coarse. During all of this, the autopilot and alt hold are disengaged.

Is there any way, via config files or whatever to adjust the amount of trim associated with a single keystroke?

Not that I've ever read on the Forums.

Personally, I never bother with the trim on the A-10, I just use the stick.

I only bother with trim on the Russian jets which (in my perception, I could be wrong) seem to need it more.

keyboard flyer huh?

I have the trim functions mapped to one of my joystick hats and have the same irritation with trim granularity. I believe there is a "reset trim" function, but I don't know whether it just neutralizes the trim settings or if it works as kind of an auto-trim...

I'll give it a try tonight.

Oh ok- well I'd say that you are maybe over doing it on the joystick. If your trim is not on the HAT- you need to put it there. The HAT will allow a finer control of the input. But also- keep in mind that many things affect the responsiveness. Your speed is the biggest thing. The faster you go -the more results. Climbing hard, diving then pulling out are just a couple of examples of manuevers that will require you to make a trim adjustment- sometimes a MAJOR one.

Trim reset- Ctrl+T. This is way up there in importance for programming space on your stick. This command does NOT work on the AFM Su25's (Flaming cliffs 1.1 or higher) VERY useful for those aforementioned MAJOR adjustments.(like after Big-G manuevers)

Auto trim- only the F15C has an auto trim modeled. Yes- I know it's been said that real ones are not equipped as such- take it as a gift, cause the developers sure left plenty of $heet off the F15.

Cali- Still F15 crew? Does it have an auto trim or not?

Thanks for the inputs and ideas guys. It sounds as if the short answer is no.

Konkussin: keyboard flyer? Actually, I hate using the keyboard. It’s like taking a bath with boots on – very unnatural. Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to get my trusty Thrustmaster HOTAS setup working with WinXP and my creative labs gameport. So, I use a Logitek ATK3, which has some discrete buttons but not enough. With my Thrustmaster setup, sure I’d put trim on the hat it’s a natural place for it.

I realize that in many phases of flight, one has more pressing things to do than trim the aircraft. But, it is sure nice to use if one is doing an ILS approach or some other procedure where holding steady pressure on the joystick is tiring and distracting.

As far as putting trim on the hat switch fixing my granularity problem, I don’t see how that changes anything – the hat is just a bunch of switches that appear as keystrokes. Somewhere, whatever I map the hat into results in one unit of trim – just like any other key. Or, am I missing something?

Your assumption is that trim is divided up into equal units is incorrect. The HAT switch does provide a finer control of the over a keypress- period. This particular keypress does not send a one time command to the the game, it sends a continuous command for as long as it's held.

On all of my sticks- A couple of MSPP's, 3 X45's, and on my CH gear, trim on a HAT has ALWAYS allowed for finer control. Remapping a bunch of default keys complicates everything. Why bother with that if you can assign these keys to a stick HAT, button, etc? Changing most keys around usually dominos into more conflicts & problems down the line.

I think the major underlying issue is that you are trying to make this work with a stick that simply doesn't cut it. If you must use a single piece stick with just 1 HAT, then you should probably program that HAT to keystrokes for TDC cursor up/ down /left /right. That way you can use it:

alone: obviously to control the TDC

shift+ HAT: slew radar scan cone

ctrl+HAT: Trim. Problem: Because you have only 1 HAT- I think you might have to change the default key assignments because your elevator trim is reverse of the other up/down default. Pulling DOWN on the HAT is supposed to RAISE the nose of the aircraft in real life) In short- UP trims nose UP, DOWN trims nose down. This is opposite of real aircraft, but you have major limitations here. I don't have the key commands in front of me- you'll have to set it up and see for yourself.

HOTAS sticks have enough programming space so that you can have a dedicated HAT for trimming.

By the way- if you also need to "look around" (turn your "head")and you figured to do that by way of some stick function also- you are REALLY REALLY hurting yourself. Get a track IR. Your stick already appears woefully inadequate for LOMAC- the last thing you want to waste programming space on is just trying to see what's going on.