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This ongoing community X45 User's guide has been written in response to some of the problems that users have encountered while try to configure there X45 joystick for LOMAC.

From my experience, and from the feedback of others, the X45 joystick works flawlessly with LOMAC, and nearly all problems described by users can be resolved through correct installation and understanding of how the Saitek X45 software works. Therefore, please read through this guide before installing and posting any problems you have with X45 and LOMAC.

Ok ...here we go:

INSTALLATION

1.First thing first, I highly recommend that you use the Saitek STT software instead of the 'built-in' profile that comes with LOMAC. To do this, you need to have the latest Saitek drivers and SST software installed (Make sure you select 'advanced user' during the install process). You can download the driver and software together here:

http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/down/drivers.htm

2. Next, download an X45 profile for LOMAC. You can download my X45 profile from either of these two sites:

http://www.saitekforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5663

http://gwwalter.customer.netspace.net.au/X45_LOMAC.zip

The zip file you download comes with two profiles, TrackIR and Non-TrackIR, and their corresponding key command documents.

3.Place the LOMAC profile (eg. LOMAC.dat or LOMAC - No TrackIR.dat) in the Saitek software directory. For example, I need to put my profile in this directory on my computer: C:\Program Files\Saitek\Software.

4.Next, unplug any other joystick that you are using and plug in your X45 joystick. Activate the profile by right clicking on the X45 joystick icon in the taskbar and choose the LOMAC profile you installed in the software directory. The joystick icon in the taskbar should now be highlighted green.

Note: The way the Saitek software works is by translating the button pressed on your joystick to a keyboard command. You can quickly check that you have done the above steps properly. Open up Microsoft Word document or Notepad, set mode 1 on the joystick and press the 'fire c' button. You should see a keyboard command written in the document that corresponds to the button pressed. With my profile activated, you should see the letter 'f' written in the document corresponding to the flaps in LOMAC.

Now we need to configure LOMAC a little so that our joystick works properly in the game.

5.First, clear the in-game mapping for the Saitek X45 flight controller so that there is no potential for conflict between it and the Saitek SST software we are using. To do this go to options -> Input and select the Saitek X45 flight controller under the DEVICE menu. DO NOT clear the commands for the keyboard. Clear all the commands as shown in the screenshot below:



Similarly, make sure you clear the commands for the other sections 'flight', 'custom' and 'combat'.

6.In order for the plane to fly straight in the game, switch menu from buttons to axes, select Thrust axis, click change and move your throttle to assign it to that axis only. Make sure thrust is not assign to any other axis by selecting both left and right thrust and clearing anything assign to them. Similarly, you'll also want to assign zoom to one of the rotaries (slider 1). ITs important that the 'smoot slider' is set to MAX. Your setup should look similar to the screenshot below:



7.Now, we need to tweak the pitch, roll and rudder axis to improve flight stability and overcome any adverse roll effects. Highlight pitch in the buttons map, make sure 'enable responses' is 'on' and adjust the response curves as shown in the above diagram. Do the same for roll and rudder axes. You might want to customize it to suit your own preference; however, the important thing here is to add some 'deadzone' for pitch, roll and rudder.

8. If you have downloaded my TrackIR profile, you'll notice that I use F9 and F10 keys for enable and centre trackir. To avoid any conflict, you'll have to re-assign any key commands within LOMAC that conflict with these two keys. For example, you'll need to assign Theatre view (orignally F10) to Alt-F11 so that it works with my profile. Also,make sure you assign unlock view to F7 so that padlock functionality works properly.



PRECOG'S PROFILE CHANGES V1.02
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These are the changes that have been be made since the orginal profile.

1) Added 'AWACS declare' and 'Vector to bandit' to AUX 1 and AUX 3. IMPORTANT: Make sure you re-set to AUX 2 when not in use else you may have some strange behaviour when using pinkie switch or changing modes.
2) Slowed down the panning speed so its no longer using fast pan.
3) Swaped weapon release with Roger Wilco. Voice Comms (Roger wilco) is now on the 'fire D' button, and the guns assigned to the trigger button.
4) Removed increase/decrease azimuth as it doesnt provide any advantage.
5) Toggle EO system included in modes 1 and 3.
6) Added toggle Nav lights in place of AWACS -tanker. AWACS -tanker and AWACS -Home assigned to AUX 0 and AUX 2 in Mode 2.
7) Seperated the gun and weapon release trigger
8) The 'main cockpit view' has been altered to incorporate the breaking of padlock.
9) Updated the checklists on the command sheet
10) Added Auto-throttle to 'air to ground' mode
11) Added continuous chaff/flare to 'air-to-air' mode
12) Added launch override button
13) CRPP mode added
14) Added rear view command

Ive also swap a few commands around just to make them more user-friendly.

If you feel that something should be changed then let me know Smile

TROUBLESHOOTING
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Q:Some of the commands seem to work, some of them don't even though everything looks fine in the profile I installed? I found I was getting spurious responses?


A:Make sure you select the X45 stick in the inputs menu and remove all commands associated with it. This avoids any potential conflict between the Saitek software which emulates keyboard commands and the X45 profile that comes with LOMAC.

Q:I've got the X45 and the plane also keeps rolling to one side?

A:In order for the plane to fly straight in the game, switch menu from buttons to axes, select Thrust axis, click change and move your throttle to assign it to that axis only. Make sure thrust is not assign to any other axis by selecting both left and right thrust and clearing anything assign to them. Also, make sure you have some deadzone assigned for pitch, roll and rudder.

Q:Instability seems to increase after I fly for a few minutes. It feels as though Im having to fight the stick even after adding dead zones?

A:You need to continuously trim the aircraft in LOMAC. If you only trim it for one speed and then you change your speed, the aircraft will appear to be unstable and you'll have to continually fight it to keep it straight and level. Your instability problems will disappear if you constantly trimming your aeroplane.


Q:Anything with "shift" doesn't seem to work?

A:You need to use the Saitek SST software and have a profile loaded that makes use of shift commands. Try downloading the above mentioned profile and see if that works. Its most likely the profile hasn't been programmed properly. There is a known bug in the SST software that causes some strange anomalies (conflicts with the auxiliary switch, programmed rotaries and pinkie switch)

Q: I noticed one weird thing... when i hit the switch button (pinky switch) it seems to breifly call up the wingman menu and awacs menu

A: There is due to a big in the Saitek software. Its important that the auxillary switch is centered, otherwise you'll get some strange behaviour. Alternatively, clear any commands assigned to the auxillary switch.

Q: I tried your profile and noticed that when I hit cockpit view. It seems like it takes about a second or two for the cockpit to center.

A: You need to re-assign unlock padlock (NumLock to F7) and the delay will dissapeared.

Q: The zoom seems jittery and doesnt work. It has a mind of its own?

A: Make sure the 'smooth slider' is set to max, as shown in the screenshot above.


Hope this helps Smile

Precog

The Meatrix - Red or Blue?



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Well done precog. nicely put together!

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thanks for your hardwork!

I noticed one weird thing...may just be my system but i followed your instructions and when i hti the switch button (pinky switch) it seems to breifly call up the wingman menu and awacs menu.

Dont know how it does it...
 
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Make sure you center the Auxillary switch Smile

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Thanks bud I'm working on my profile it might take a few days.


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Originally posted by Cali_169th:
Thanks bud I'm working on my profile it might take a few days.

http://169thpanthers.net/main/index.php
Click on sig to see 169th website
Flying Officer "Cali"
169th Panthers

AMD Athlon 64-bit 3200+ 1600mhz HyperTransport Tech
1 Gig DDR 3200 | ATI 9600Pro AIW cats 4.5
X45 | DX9.0b | 22 inch dell Trinitron monitor
TrackIR2 | Logitech Z-640 5.1 speakers



Let me know when its done Cali and Ill host it and add it to the thread if you like.

The Meatrix - Red or Blue?


 
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Big thanks to you Precog ! Im so used to your profile for 1.01 that i simply couldnt play without it so thanks for updating Big Grin

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BRAVO! and Thank you! Smile
 
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Has anyone created an X45/MSFFB2 profile?

I'm in the process of modifying yours Precog (and thank you for the hard work you have done Smile) to work with the FFB stick, and can make it available if it helps any one.

As I have CH Pedals too I'll be assigning the rudder bar to flaps.
 
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thanks precog...you da man!!! Bow

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Bump,
Thanks...

 
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Your the man PrecogSmile

Many thanks mateSmile

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first of all thanks for the excellent work !! Your 1.01 profile worked perfectly for me. I seem to have a problem with your 1.02 profile though: I installed it acc. to your instructions, but when I press "fly" and the screen where I have to press "S" shows up, my head is somehow all the way up or in another direction, just not looking forward, and I can't switch back to forward view (the button on the hat somehow doesn't work), even controling head movement with the hat is sometimes impossible. I must be doing something wrong here, this is so strange. Does anyone have any idea ?? Thanks for your help !!
 
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the layout for the commands, is all crapy, is it just my com. that do or ????
 
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Hey, Precog, nice job!1

Is there an easy way to clear all the commands in the Lomac configuration? I wasn't able to select more than one command at a time so it's a painfully slow process. Are they loaded via one of the new config files?

Thanks,
Blaster
P4 3.0 GHz, 2 GB PC3200, nVidia FX5900 Ultra, Saitek X45, TrackIR 2
 
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<Sticky>Bump</Sticky>

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Nice work, fast work!!!

I have one question regarding the new cockpit view in the "no Track IR" profile.
In your former profile the combination was "Num 5" "Num Enter" "F1". Now it is "F7" "F1" "Num Enter".
I am a little puzzled about the "F7", how was it supposed to work?
Or did I miss someting?

Regards



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Actually, I can't seem to find a button assignment for centering your view, in your 1.02 non-trackIR profile, Precog. When I'm looking around with the hat switch, I have to reach for the numpad and press 5 in order to re-center my view. Am I simply missing the key assignment somewhere on the joystick/throttle? If you guys know where it is, please inform me Wink

BTW precog - outstanding work on the X45 layout Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by MusicOn:
Nice work, fast work!!!

I have one question regarding the new cockpit view in the "no Track IR" profile.
In your former profile the combination was "Num 5" "Num Enter" "F1". Now it is "F7" "F1" "Num Enter".
I am a little puzzled about the "F7", how was it supposed to work?
Or did I miss someting?

Regards

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"Speed is life and altitude is your friend"
_IRONHAND - Training Mission "Staying Alive"_


Hello Precog,

I am curious about this also.

I tried your profile and noticed that when I hit cockpit view. It seems like it takes about a second or two for the cockpit to center.

This also happens coming from external views. It takes a few seconds to get back to cockpit view after hitting the button. Thanks again for sharing your profile.

paralyzer


 
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First I have to say, that is a very good profile! thx

But the zooming rotary seems to do not work. I have enabeld cockpitmouse in the lua config file, but that do not help too.

Any ideas?
 
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