i heard there was a russian fighter move that allows u to slip the dopplers'radar. it suppose to go like this''´you
fire off your ER missile(in bvr).start your dive in a right angle position,if done right u suppose slip under the doppler's radar. your second shot is in EOS mode with a IR missile(et or 27t). can this be done in lockon? i know the lockon game doesn't give too much advantage over one team to the next.

You're not neccessarily "slipping under the radar" You're manuevering to cause the missile to react. Missile motors do not burn long. Some as short as 5 seconds. It's running on pure speed and energy. Any "reaction" on the part of the missile bleeds that energy away. When you assume a course that is less direct towards the enemy you effectively increase the distance that the missile must travel. Plus- the angle forces that missile to keep turning. The diving turn is forcing the missile to also turn and dive (the lower it goes the more drag) and then you can climb up some and the missile might not be able to follow at that point.

As far as the ET shot on EOS? Good luck with that. EOS doesn't work too well from the front. It likes engines. If -in all this semi-defensive flying - you have managed to get behind your adversary?... Well there you go. If you are still fighting- more or less- toe to toe.. heh well like I said- good luck.

well can't u get so low under the f-15c where the doppler radar can't detect you? i know what u mean about the dive,i do that all the time. i fire off an ER missile in BRV(the first shot isn't meant for a kill)to get him in to a defensive move(if the badit dives left you dive right). the dive i do is to dragout his missile and to position myself for a EOS kill(et or 27t). i have not gotten behind a target,but in a good position shot for the EOS kill. if done right the badits 3 or 4 oclock position is exposed.i have been succesful(6 out of 10)when i get a kill in EOS the badit doesn't know where the shot came from and when i take the shot. with the mig high off bore shot i can fire and pull out of harms way. what do u do when u are in a 1 on 1 fight?

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Originally posted by Tiger_Fox:
well can't u get so low under the f-15c where the doppler radar can't detect you? .... what do u do when u are in a 1 on 1 fight?

If you drop below.. i think it's 20 m.. it will cause problems for the enemy's radar & missiles. However- you have pinned yourself to the deck and are not likely to be able to fly your way out of this predicament. I wouldn't recommend this strategy, other than maybe as part of an escape.

In Lock On- the R27T/ET can be locked onto a target with radar and let loose much like an active missile would be. It's not often successful, but it's certainly a better option than trying to lock up someone on EOS that is facing you...