Okay, I don't know what the big idea is here but it looks like Ubi are desperately trying again to rename the Heroes series for some reason. We're getting Might and Magic: Heroes Kingdoms instead of Heroes of Might and Magic Kingdoms.

As you might know, this isn't the first time they've tried such a stunt -- in fact, it's the fourth:




All of these name changes were cancelled because fans reacted to each one very negatively, but it looks like the publishers have yet to clear out their ears: it's Heroes of Might and Magic, not Might and Magic: Heroes.

I know "it's only a name etc", but it's a totally unnecessary change. This isn't what the series is called -- would Blizzard release a game named "Warcraft: Of World", or would we get "Metal Gear 6: Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots"?

If this ridiculous change isn't opposed we'll be faced with Might and Magic: Heroes VI, which is no exaggeration based on the track record. I don't see their motives -- HoMM is a much more recognizable brand name.

And yeah I understand that some don't care about semantics and just want them to release the thing already. But if they were less prolific about the name and more so about the game it would have been released five months ago.

Question:
What's the game called again, in case Ubi isn't sure?

Choices:
Heroes of Might and Magic Kingdoms
Might and Magic: Heroes Kingdoms

 

I like HOMMK - it is natural name for a geme to me
every HOMM was HOMM to me, I, II, or Kingdoms so it was HOMM I, HOMM II or HOMMK (HOMMKingdoms)
MMHK is even worse when you try to say it.

I have to agree with you Pale :P I don't like this system at all

Haahhahaha we have a similar discussion in da gaim and it sounds better hommx than mmhx.

For us is a problem because they want to integrate the strategy game on the mark might and magic, Dark messiah stills with that inherited from the rol series, and now other products come and also use the mark.

I think most homm players call it simply heroesx

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For us is a problem because they want to integrate the strategy game on the mark might and magic

Yeah, but the problem being that it's already been integrated from the beginning. If we had two completely different titles like "The Longest Journey" and its sequel "Dreamfall", merging them into "The Longest Journey: Dreamfall" would be forgiveable, but I don't have any idea what's going on in their minds with this one. Misplacing the "of Might and Magic" title certainly isn't likely to improve consistency or boost sales, so I don't get why they're so insistent on it. It's no stroke of genius.

btw
here the fronts were like this:

Obviously. The ones in the masterpost were cancelled just as this MM:HK nonsense should be.

omg Ubisoft... First you destroy the games feeling, the games background history, the factions, the heroes, the everything! And now you are going for the name to? Come on haven't you killed the game enough yet? I mean come on why not just make Might and Magic and the Muppets or something... Thanks for ruining this awesome game universe with your Ashan crap!

Let's not resort to name calling, that's just useless, regardless of people's opinions on Ubisoft's take on the MM universe (heroes and otherwise).

That being said, I do think that the name change is a bad idea. The reason 3DO and NWC had the name "heroes of:" before the Might and Magic, was to differentiate it. The same can be said for all other spin offs, the only one of which I can think of being crusaders of. To me, this is natural. What do these heroes belong to? The M&M universe. It was a simple and elegant way to show that "hey, this is related to the might and magic game, though obviously different as it involves heroes of some kind." While M&M: Blah does the same thing, it's less subtle about it. It's drawing attention to the M&M part, not the Heroes part. The game isn't M&M, though, it's Heroes! It's the Heroes part that should stand out.

While it's true that people often abbreviate the games to Heroes I/II/III/IV/V/VI/K in speech, that's all it is. An abbreviation. A nickname. The U.S. Dollar still says "One Dollar" on it, not "one buck."Slang is slang and will always exist, but it shouldn't replace what it is slang for.

That's really all I have to say. I know that this alone won't sway anyone to change their minds about the names, so I urge the rest of you to speak your mind too. Don't just shout "I agree" and name call, explain what you don't like, and why. If enough people do this, maybe we'll accomplish something.

Keyboards up all those who want to play the game regardless of the name ! Now put those keyboards down before the mouse gets upset :P

I think this thread should be temporarily suspended and all of you writing here should gather your pitchforks and torches and move back to a thread complaining about the country-by-country open beta ...

It's been 2 years now and the least they could have done is buy 15-20 servers and make the open beta really OPEN !

Wrong attitude. If Ubi can find the time to plot unwarranted brand name changes -- after already marketing the HoMM Kingdoms name for two years, mind you -- surely they have time to release the game while theyre at it.

And complaining is nothing negative. It's a natural way to gather opinions -- otherwise forums wouldn't exist. Censoring or suspending the thread because you have a peronal dislike of the feedback it expresses isn't going to make the problem vanish.

Ok im sorry for the name calling but I am just so urinated (Dont wanna say ****ed) about this! Seriously my opinion is that they should change the whole game title. Stop calling it Might and Magic at all! I mean come on, the game is not even related to HoMM or Might and Magic at all, different plot, different creatures, everything is different, sadly enough it is the money they comb home on it... Its a shame to destroy such beautiful art as the true MaM, but I guess anyone can be a Picasso theese days..

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Originally posted by Pale_Knight:
Wrong attitude. If Ubi can find the time to plot unwarranted brand name changes -- after already marketing the HoMM Kingdoms name for two years, mind you -- surely they have time to release the game while theyre at it.

And complaining is nothing negative. It's a natural way to gather opinions -- otherwise forums wouldn't exist. Censoring or suspending the thread because you have a peronal dislike of the feedback it expresses isn't going to make the problem vanish.

I don't have any problem with what this thread is all about ! NONE !

I'm kind of fond of the HOMM title myself ... probably because I did play every game in the series starting with the 1st and ending with the 5th ( although the 3rd is the last one to keep the true HOMM spirit)

Anyway, my point was that I believe(d) you are focusing on the wrong idea... but I've pondered a bit on that and I've changed my mind! NOTHING seems to make UBI go faster about releasing the game ... NOTHING ! So let's focus on other stuff ... like the title ...

I say make it HOMMK ! Definitely ! Even if it's not quite the atmosphere we'd like (from what the beta players said) maybe that will all change in future releases. Let's hope for dream of many new AND better versions ... and pray for this one to finally arrive!

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Originally posted by DVali:
( although the 3rd is the last one to keep the true HOMM spirit)

Hahhahahahaha that kind of opinions make me laugh a lot. You can think that homm4 and 5 don't have the homm spirit, but then you have to say the same for the homm3. Everyone is a evolution of the others, and evolution doesn't mind better, but evolution. Or all have homm spirit or none, because homm3 and homm1 are absolutely different, and someone perfectly can say that those skills, upgrades and other things have nothing in common with original homm.

I'm kind of fond of the HOMM title myself ... probably because I did play every game in the series starting with the 1st and ending with the 5th ( although the 3rd is the last one to keep the true HOMM spirit)

I am totally with you bro! I have also played all the games both Heroes and MaM and starting the 4th Heroes and the 9th MaM things got ****ed up.. And also mtkyebra, I guess you are not to involved in Might and Magic history!
Cause after HoMM3 the world of Antagarich collapsed and 3DO got the idea to start up the world of Axeoth where everything were just ****ed up.. :/
So thats a part of the HoMM sprit to... Allthough the HoMM spirit as I mentioned before is kinda ****ed up from HoMM4 and above..
Then Ubisoft comes around to **** things up even worse! They totally dump the whole story that 3DO came up with and also they make the creatures looks like some damn japaneese animecrap, where is the Heroes in that?

BTW as my good friend over on CelestialHeavens suggested I quote: " What comes next? I wonder if we shall see the cunning marketing guys doing their best to persuade the Board to rename the company as "Soft: Ubi" "